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The proposed underpass alternative at Charleston Road would require westbound cars to turn around at a roundabout east of the tracks. Courtesy city of Palo Alto

Facing headwinds of public opposition and division in its own ranks, the City Council agreed to keep exploring the construction of underpasses at the Charleston Road and Meadow Drive rail crossings in south Palo Alto.

The underpass alternative is one of two that the council voted 4-3 to advance for additional engineering at the two crossings. Also moving forward is the “hybrid” design that combines raising tracks and lowering roads. The June 18 vote, which followed bitter disagreements between council members and protests from households along the corridor, authorized staff and consultants to develop 15% of the design for each of the two alternatives.

For the council, the Tuesday vote represented a major milestone in a tortuous and complex effort known as Connecting Palo Alto. For the past decade, city staff, consultants and community volunteers had been winnowing down a list of design options that had initially included more than 35 alternatives to current rail crossings in the city — including tunnels, trenches and viaducts. The June 18 vote officially narrows this list down to three.

At the Churchill Avenue crossing, the council has selected a car underpass as its preferred alternative for grade separation, the redesign of rail crossings so that roads and tracks would not intersect. The council reaffirmed its decision, as well as a plan to build a bike tunnel at Seale Avenue, on June 10.

 At Charleston, the choice is now down to an underpass and a hybrid design.

But the Tuesday discussion also underscored how divisive the Connecting Palo Alto effort has become. Dozens of residents, most of whom live near the tracks, addressed the council on June 10 and on June 18 with complaints about these options while many more had submitted letters of oppositions.

The underpass was by far the less popular of the two. One speaker after another complained about the prospect of losing a portion — or the entirety — of their property to accommodate the underpass alternative, which consultants estimate would require about 30 property acquisitions.

“Grade separation should focus on moving traffic, not families or property lines,” Richard Jackson, who lives on Charleston Road, told the council during the June 18 hearing.

He was one of many residents who blasted the underpass option, which involves a two-lane roundabout east of the tracks, near Mumford Place, that allows drivers to turn around and dip under the tracks if they want to drive west on Charleston.

Supporters of the underpass have touted its main advantage over the other options: its propensity to improve traffic conditions at the city’s busiest rail crossing. Opponents repeatedly used the word “over-engineered” to describe the alternative, which would require dipping the roads under the tracks and creating separated pathways for bikes and pedestrians next to the roads.

“It is an unsafe, disjointed maze for bikes and pedestrians to navigate and it will force students to compete with cars, negating its purpose,” Jackson said.

Tara Sigdel, who also lives in the area, similarly urged the council to drop the underpass, an option that he said would cause property loss and community disruptions. Like many others, he supported the hybrid as a superior option with fewer property impacts.

“The underpass option would displace families and disrupt established neighborhoods,” Sigdel said.

The proposed underpass at Meadow Drive would include a bikeway next to the road. Courtesy city of Palo Alto.

Even those who supported advancing the underpass acknowledged its drawbacks. Council member Pat Burt and Vice Mayor Ed Lauing, who both serve on the council’s Rail Committee, insisted they have no desire to take properties but framed the Tuesday vote as an opportunity to gather more information and refine the option with the goal of reducing property impacts. Burt, who chairs the Rail Committee, called the current plans for the underpass a “worst-case scenario” and suggested that further refinement could minimize the property impacts.

“For me, if those problems can’t be reduced, I’m less supportive of considering the underpass,” Burt said. “But if they can and we don’t have the impacts that we have today, it becomes a more viable option.

But his proposal to advance both the underpass and hybrid options didn’t sit well with some of his colleagues. Council members Lydia Kou, Greg Tanaka and Julie Lythcott-Haims all favored dropping the underpass from further consideration because of property impacts. Council member Vicki Veenker also signaled that she would oppose options that require significant property acquisitions but ultimately broke the deadlock and voted along with Burt, Lauing and Mayor Greer Stone to further evaluate both options.

“It’s a decision to basically get more information to make an informed decision at some future point in time, which is not defined,” Lauing said. “The council has not endorsed or approved any grade separation at this point in time and therefore we have not approved any property takings …”

Kou strongly objected and argued that advancing the underpass for further analysis would further exacerbate the anxieties of residents whose properties might be affected by this option. Many have made great sacrifices to buy their homes, which they hope to one day to pass on to their children, she said. Advancing an option that would take away their properties would be a “travesty,” she said.

“It’s just wasting money to push this forward,” Kou said.

Tanaka concurred with Kou’s view that keeping the underpass in the mix will keep a cloud over the heads of property owners and impact their home values.

“The idea of taking someone’s house really should not even be on the table,” Tanaka said. “The underpass should not be considered. We should not study it more. We should not fund it more.”

The Tuesday vote also spelled the end of the train viaduct option, which was favored by some local bike advocates because it would create a direct, at-grade connection for pedestrian and cyclists. While the council had previously rejected the viaduct, some had hoped to revive it before the next phase of engineering. But even Lythcott-Haims, the council’s sole advocate for a viaduct, acknowledged that the option does not have enough support to advance.

In lieu of the viaduct, Lythcott-Haims and Veenker argued for what they saw as the next best thing: a hybrid option in which train tracks are supported by columns rather than by a wall in certain sections of the corridor. While such a structure would cost more than the traditional hybrid, Veenker suggested that an option with columns should be evaluated in the next phase of engineering work.

Lythcott-Haims acknowledged that any option that the council chooses will face opposition.

“It may be that we are able to put it up on pillars but none of the people who would have to stare at that wall are here tonight telling us how awful that would be,” Lythcott-Haims said. “There is no option that’s going to please everyone.”

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  1. I use Park ave to ride my bike to work and around town; it looks from the renderings that Park ave will have a detour?

  2. I have a question. For the Charleston Underpass option, are the two alternatives on the east side and west side of the tracks both needed or just one of them is needed? In other words, is there an underpass scenario where the roundabout east of the tracks near Mumford is not needed?

  3. First: Ed Lauing’s suggestion that “the 15% plan is the plan” should be take to heart, and Pat Burt suggesting that if you have rail crossings will somehow address poor driving habits and mental health issues is false causation – presenting fallacy as fact. THIS WHOLE THING IS A BAD IDEA!!! Then there’s gridlock, the Joint Powers Board/Caltrain’s business plan…business plans change DAILY, but the crossings will be here for decade. Then there’s safety at proposed Seale or Paly underpass, a huge public safety challenge both for students and the residents of Professorville. There are eminent domain issues, characterised by some as “negotiations”, and truly awkward traffic patterns to boot. And, most importantly, all of this does not take into account a High-Speed-Rail system.

    I copy from a recent Nextdoor post where I again promoted the idea of trenching the tracks:
    Thank you for reminding us of the history – here’s a slightly more detailed history: https://www.paloaltohistory.org/oregon-expressway.php#:~:text=In%20the%20end%2C%20the%20road,was%20lost%20for%20the%20residentialists. The grade crossing debate is sure will be short lived if council and Caltrain have their way. Looking back, the Embarcadero / Oregon Expressway was for a larger purpose – Stanford Park…to this I would remind us that the impetus of the train / grade crossing conversation was the High Speed Rail (HSR) starting in 2008: https://padailypost.com/2019/02/13/high-speed-rail-has-had-a-tumultuous-past-a-timeline/. The reason was to create a fast alternative to flying to LA, and now with Climate Change the importance of the HSR has increased dramatically. This point is being skirted by most of the city’s council members. The idea of taking private property is always egregious, especially when the entire plan is to accommodate a plan bigger than the city and its rail crossings. I say make this Caltrain’s, the State’s and the FRA’s finance challenge – trench the train, and eliminate the rail crossing debate. A surface train will never be high speed!

    To this I add – the carbon footprint (CO2) emission on average to drive to LA is about 289 pounds, to fly is about 166 pounds and if we had France’s TGV it would be about 4 pounds (https://www.sncf-connect.com/en-en/help/calculation-co2-emissions-your-train-journey). I thought Palo Alto a “GREEN” city, but I guess no more. You can’t have a high-speed rail system in an urban setting without trench, God forbid that is should ever derail.

    For so many reasons – everything the council is proposing is misguided and just wrong! Let’s not be railroaded – Trench the tracks and make the State and Feds fund it as planned with the original Prop 1A.

  4. The concepts that are on the table are a very long way from what an engineered project may look like. Council made a decision to take a step into the first engineering level (15% engineering design, which is very early in the engineering process), at which point, they can decide to eliminate the underpass if engineers cannot solve fundamental problems of the underpass concept. I have seen projects substantively change from concept to the first engineering phase many times. It is early to be alarmed about property acquisitions when the footprint of the project could substantively change at the next stage, reducing and/or eliminating property impacts.
    The rail corridor and jurisdictional issues are so constrained, there is no option that is not going to impact some homeowners. (So many concepts were explored in an effort to avoid or minimize these impacts, I lost count.) Any of the projects will impact some homeowners. A question to ask now is, how can the city minimize impacts on homeowners as they enter into early (15%) engineering of each concept that is on the table?

    1. It’s never too early to be concerned about proposed unneeded house seizures.

      None of this is necessary – Caltrain won’t be increasing train frequency even if it manages to avoid bankruptcy via some new tax subsidy. High speed rail will not be running here either, so there’s no need for grade separation, especially at a cost of a billion dollars and famines’ lives disrupted.

  5. Remember where they stood during the next election when you’re dealing with the 10,000 new car trips dumped onto Embarcadero and all the other major roads (San Antonio, Middlefield, ECR are under constriction for years and vote accordingly.

    But his (Pat Burt’s) proposal to advance both the underpass and hybrid options didn’t sit well with some of his colleagues. Council members Lydia Kou, Greg Tanaka and Julie Lythcott-Haims all favored dropping the underpass from further consideration because of property impacts. Council member Vicki Veenker also signaled that she would oppose options that require significant property acquisitions but ultimately broke the deadlock and voted along with Burt, Lauing and Mayor Greer Stone to further evaluate both options.”

  6. Finally a good rendering of the underpass has been published. I personally like it. I see a good separation between bicycles & cars, this is good.
    I read underpass will impact ~ 30 houses. How many will be impacted with Hibryd?
    What will be the compensation for those families? We know market value is not enough, as property taxes can be too high on new purchases for many.
    Will the city be able to provide new house in Palo Alto to those families? There are projects for adding houses in Palo Alto, in my opinion those shall be reserved for the families impacted in this project.

    1. The additional homes are not shown on the drawing. If you follow the Charleston photo east bound (top of photo) you’ll see the outline of the large cookoo roundabout that would be constructed so you could pass Alma and then swing back (in traffic) to complete your left turn on Alma. That round about would infringe/take 20+ properties as I recall. We’ll be living with this awkward traffic “feature” for the rest of our lives. I’m still confused about where all of the two lane traffic between ECR and Alma would go since there is only one lane in the drawing. It’s way backed up at rush hour.

  7. First, kudos to the writer for using the word tortuous properly in a sentence. It’s subtle, and probably appears to be a typo to most eyes.

    Are the buildings that have been overlaid with blue the homes that will be “taken”? If so I only see 3 buildings. Not 30. Not that it’s ever right to take someone’s property to fulfill another person’s pipe dream.

    If this project gets off the ground I see a LOT of people who will lose their route to wherever they need to go without an acceptable detour. Many children will lose accessibility to get to and from school. Rome wasn’t built in a day. This project would take years to complete.

    I think there’s an option nobody is considering. And that is to suspend all construction other than affordable housing until such time as there are no permits and no construction going on. Let Palo Alto catch its breath. There are too many developers eyeing inches of dirt and then pushing forward with the right to build there according to the Remedy route. Stanford’s legacy should be on the chopping block when “taking” property from owners. They have been favored for too long. They should lose their federal and county tax exemptions instead of punishing those who live east of the Stanford property line. I’m wondering which lobbyists have been pushing the mantra “more bikes, better for everyone” when all it will really do is force the RV’s off of the street in front of their hallowed ground.

    The housing in the proposed area being considered has been there for decades. The developers shouldn’t have been allowed to build so closely to the train tracks to begin with. Let them pay the price to relocate people who live there, instead of the City. That would stop the project in its proverbial tracks.

    And High Speed Rail — search youtube for derailments and see how that turns out when an unknown whatever happens that sends a train hurtling toward anything in its path. “The train always wins”.

  8. Long live the Palo Alto (and Caltrain) Process! I hope the city spends another 10 years debating and studying this boondoggle. By then, there will be a new generation of city and train officials in charge who will likely throw up their hands in frustration and drop the whole thing.

  9. It seems CA has gotten $3 billion in federal funding out of the **estimated* $35 billion needed for the high-speed-rail system.

    The costs keep rising along with the state, county and city deficits which have required massive cutbacks in even the most basic services. (Except in Palo Alto which can just keep goosing our utility rates to fuel the hiring spree)

    Elections are coming up, making future federal and other grants questionable.

    Since this boondoggle is unlikely to ever be funded or completed, who can the threatened homeowners and taxpayers sue for years — decades? — of stress, wasted staff time, etc.?

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