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Third coronavirus case found in Santa Clara County

Original post made on Feb 28, 2020

Santa Clara County public health department leaders have reported a third case of coronavirus (COVID-19) within the county, the department announced Friday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, February 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

Comments

Posted by Email
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Feb 28, 2020 at 3:55 pm

From email from PAUSD, the tele school will be needed in JLS and Paly if not other schools soon. These are only contacts not confirmed cases. I hope the weekend does not bring in more contact cases. Any friend of these two students...


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Feb 28, 2020 at 4:11 pm

"The county Public Health Department will hold a press conference to discuss the third case today at 4 p.m., which will be livestreamed from the Public Health Department Facebook page."



Got an update? It's 4:10 and they had a live video on FB of a microphone for a while and then took it down.


Posted by Concerned
a resident of Ohlone School
on Feb 28, 2020 at 4:14 pm

Ohlone classrooms are missing dozens of students.
If peope are hiding and not getting tested we are all doomed


Posted by Stop Freaking Out
a resident of Woodside
on Feb 28, 2020 at 4:22 pm

1. [Portion removed.]

2. The US response has been exceptionally good thus far — only sixteen cases and none fatal.

3. There will be a vaccine soon. Many companies are working on this. An Israeli company says theirs will be available in several weeks.

4. [Portion removed.]

5. Wash your hands and stay cool.


Posted by False Info Above
a resident of Community Center
on Feb 28, 2020 at 4:37 pm

@Stop Freaking Out - please stop misleading people to avoid them from taking protective action for their families.

The Coronavirus has a mortality rate 20X - 30X greater than the common flu. It is also very contagious and does not show symptoms initially. Vaccines are at least a year away.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park
on Feb 28, 2020 at 4:47 pm

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Covid 19 spreads more easily than either SARS or Mers and therefore will infect far more people and cause far more deaths.

According to the WHO as of today there have already been 83,694 cases of Covid 19 vs 8,096 during the entire SARS epidemic and 2,494 during the entire MERS epidemic.

And as of today there have already been 2,861 deaths from the Covid 19 virus vs 774 deaths from the entire SARS erpidemic and 858 deaths from the Mers epidemic.


Posted by Who Does That?
a resident of Mayfield
on Feb 28, 2020 at 4:53 pm


"The district learned from another parent that this parent "was reported to have been in public proximity to an infected person" but that "there is no indication of infection at this time."

This is the type of ignorance and attitude that will make this thing get out of control: pretend it can't be you and potentially infect 1,000s more!


Posted by Latest data from China
a resident of Menlo Park
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:04 pm

It's worth looking at the Chinese CDC data on number of infections, deaths and case fatality rates based on age, demographics, etc in Table 1 of this report. Especially interesting is the overall % of "mild" cases (80%), infection & mortality rates for those under 20 and much lower mortality rate for those under 60.

Web Link


Posted by Stop Freaking Out
a resident of Woodside
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:13 pm

I’m so old I can remember all the way back to 2018 when repealing “Net Neutrality” was going to be end of the world. We survived that, and we’ll survive COVID-19.

Lots of buying opportunities on Wall Street now if you’ve got the stomach for it!


Posted by Mom
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:14 pm

Dear who does that -
this is, unfrotuantelly, a result of our health care and lack of social safety net.
I do not know who this parent is, but I am guessing they weren't being ignorant or malicious. They could not afford not to go to work, and/or not to send the children to school.


Posted by bikermom
a resident of Mayfield
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:32 pm

according to multiple news sources a vaccine isn't available for 12-18 months. Stay healthy folks.


Posted by Stop Freaking Out
a resident of Woodside
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:44 pm

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Posted by listen to the capitalist Putin fan
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:48 pm

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Posted by resident
a resident of Gunn High School
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:53 pm

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Posted by listen to the capitalist Putin fan
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:56 pm

> There will be a vaccine soon. (Jerusalem Post)

The same article said:

"Last month, The Jerusalem Post reported that Israeli scientists announced that they may have found a cure for cancer."

You may want to let someone else manage your investment decisions. Snake oil salesmen abound. Cure for cancer in a year?

Well, then.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Feb 28, 2020 at 5:56 pm

Ok so 2 Palo Alto students were sent home and parents of school children were notified. How about the rest of us who don't have school children?? Some outreach to the rest of us would have been appreciated.

The tv networks actually have audio that you can hear without background as do several print publications.


Posted by redplanet
a resident of University South
on Feb 28, 2020 at 6:25 pm

@False Info Above Take a look at this comparison article in recent issue of JAMA:

Livingston E, Bucher K, Rekito A. Coronavirus Disease 2019 and Influenza. JAMA. Published online February 26, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.2633

Web Link


Posted by Chris C.
a resident of Community Center
on Feb 28, 2020 at 6:32 pm

@Online Name -- you are literally posting about this in an online newspaper forum less than 2 hours after the school told anyone about the family which had been exposed. Is that insufficient notification? What is it you wanted? A personal phone call from the school district? A city-wide emergency text message alert, which says "here's what we know, there is nothing you need to do right now?"


Posted by Peter North
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 28, 2020 at 6:44 pm

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Posted by Teacher
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Feb 28, 2020 at 6:44 pm

It would be nice if the district would give teachers hand sanitizer, Clorox wipes, etc for our classrooms. So far nothing.


Posted by District Teacher
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 28, 2020 at 7:30 pm

Teacher: yes yes yes!! Right now all I have is the sanctioned vinegar and water (or something like that?) that was provided to me. I might just have to go rogue and use wipes to clean the nasty desks, countertops, etc.


Posted by Mr.Recycle
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Feb 28, 2020 at 7:46 pm

@District Teacher - Can you clarify the district is sanctioning "vinegar and water" but not known effective chemicals like bleach? wat?


Posted by O....M....G
a resident of Mountain View
on Feb 28, 2020 at 8:11 pm

Would you people look at yourselves? What the hell have we become, this insane, over-reactive, dramatic and as a very old friend of mine fondly says “mamby pamby” collective. WTH? People. STOP. take a breath. It WILL BE OK.

For gods sake, stop this overdramatization, freaking out on EVERYTHING. and I mean everything. Good god, you’d think it was the apocalypse. Or an asteroid was heading straight for us.

But hey, makes for a great news cycle and a helluva lot more page views LOL


Posted by Humper Biden
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 28, 2020 at 8:17 pm

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Posted by District Teacher
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 28, 2020 at 8:25 pm

@Mr. Recycle: the supplies I have are from a while ago. I don't know if we will get something new. I believe we have what we have because of this: Web Link


Posted by listen to the capitalist Putin fan
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Feb 28, 2020 at 8:41 pm

> they imagine the spreading disease will knock confidence and our robust economy

Are you not paying attention?

Worldwide GDP *will* be down for Q1. The only question is how bad Q2 will be.

Chinese production is way down. That will effect the sales volume of many, many companies for the next 6 months. Airports are seeing vast reductions in traffic (see the numbers for Frankfort, for example.)

The meltdown has little to do with Trump.

Speaking of Trump: what do you think of his cuts to the CDC budget?


Posted by Jane Doe
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Feb 28, 2020 at 8:48 pm

My daughter, her boyfriend and many of their friends and colleagues have been unusually sick recently. She worked from home for two weeks. She is convinced she has had the new virus. She is gradually getting better but was never tested and never will be,so she might never know. How many others like this?


Posted by Humper Biden
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 28, 2020 at 9:05 pm

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Posted by Insider/Outsider
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 28, 2020 at 9:55 pm



"Although we already had protocols in place to address the coronavirus we are amping up our vigilance ... particularly at those two sites that have been identified," she said.

What are the protocols? Currently many of us teachers at Paly have to buy our own supply of clorox wipes and boxes of tissues, and we certainly do not know of, or have had a staff meeting to discuss the protocols to address the virus.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Feb 28, 2020 at 9:56 pm

Chris E, and here we are several hours later and STILL the city has sent out no notices, no emails, posted nothing on NextDoor etc. to people without school age kids. We're paying pr people and city spokespeople hundreds of thousands of dollars and STILL nothing has been sent out to residents. This reminds me of when certain city officials failed to notify residents ahout major changes proposed for our neighborhoods and even on our streets.


Posted by Concerned
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 28, 2020 at 11:21 pm

Did the parent and kids get tested? Hope they are ok. Also concerned for the other kids in those schools. Anyone heard what the district will be doing?


Posted by Parent
a resident of another community
on Feb 28, 2020 at 11:57 pm

The virus is spreading.
California, Oregon, and now again in Washington State.
A high school student from Mill Creek (in Snohomish County) just tested positive on Friday. This high school and area have a high number of students from Asia. The first Coronavirus case reported in the US was near this area.

From Mountain View Voice:
"Santa Clara County public health department leaders reported a third case of coronavirus (COVID-19) within the county on Friday, the same day Palo Alto school district officials learned a parent of two students may have been exposed to the virus. The two students, who attend Palo Alto High School and JLS Middle School, were sent home as a precaution, Superintendent Don Austin said.
The third coronavirus case involves an older woman who has chronic health conditions and was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, according to a department press release."

Web Link

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Downtown North
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:10 am

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Posted by Parent
a resident of another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 3:34 am

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Posted by Brit
a resident of Palo Verde
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:09 am

To get my green card I had to have a complete health check, including AIDS test and TB chest XRay.

I travel, so do many Americans who were born here. Why I travel is no different from an American doing business overseas, travelling for pleasure or education, or visiting family/friends.

In the past emigrating to a foreign country usually meant never going back because the cost was prohibitive. Now it is just like someone from New York going back to visit family in New York, or someone going to Hawaii for a vacation.


Posted by George
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:27 am

I agree with those advising 'don't panic'. This virus is a common cause - the whole community should pitch in and act in the best interests of everyone. Stay home if you're sick, and by all means, don't promote fear or misinformation.
It is scary how quickly some politicians have jumped on this to score points, make false charges, and discredit the government's efforts to organize. It's been charged that the White House response team isn't racially diverse enough, that Pence - former Governor serving as a liaison to other Governors - doesn't qualify, that the approach the Trump team is taking is too little, too late, that imposing a standard central and unified message is Trump's effort to silence health officials. The NY Times wants to call it the Trump virus, never letting an opportunity to smear pass without something nasty to say. Politicians and the media trying to score points with this crisis is wrong.
The country could well talk itself into a recession. Or not. As many as 80,000 people (2017-2018 season) die of the flu in the U.S. - an enormous tragedy that occurs without much national notice. This virus surprised everyone and how it will develop is not fully known but if we let the press or the politicians to exploit people's fears we'll all be in much worse shape.
The coronavirus began where most flu originates - in the 'less than ideal' co-mingling of animals and humans in China. Many don't believe - even now - that the Chinese are telling the whole truth about the cause (bats?), numbers infected, and deaths.
The week ahead may set the tone for months to come. Hopefully, in this matter, people will come together.


Posted by listen to the capitalist Putin fan
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:55 am

> "It's been charged that the White House response team isn't racially diverse enough, that Pence ... doesn't qualify, that the approach the Trump team is taking is too little, too late, that imposing a standard central and unified message is Trump's effort to silence health officials."

Mike Pence flew to Florida to fund-raise as his first action after Trump appointed him.

The President called the virus a hoax last night at a 'rally' where he also said he was there to 'troll' the Democratic primary.
BYZHe

> "It is scary how quickly some politicians have jumped on this to score points, make false charges, and discredit the government's efforts to organize."

Yes, Trump is caring the bejebbers out of ordinary folks who can read simple facts (unlike him.)

Called it a Hoax?!??!

Yep: CNBC - "Trump calls outbreak a 'hoax,' South Korea has record jump in cases"


Posted by George
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 29, 2020 at 9:15 am

Pence doesn't need to be chained to a government desk in D.C. to do his job. Most of the Democratic candidates who might be working from their offices in D.C. are out campaigning and fundraising. Is there something specific you think Pence should be doing that is not getting done by the team? You make my point, nothing helpful.

Trump was referring to Schumer's charge that Trump was not spending enough, etc., etc., as yet another false attack by the Democrats on the Job he's doing. Schumer could have simply announced that they were going to join the effort and authorize even more funds but he didn't. He took the opportunity to take a cheap shot.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 9:35 am

I would encourage people to forget political postings and focus on the preparedness of our community and our families.


Posted by Teacher
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:04 am

Thanks for taking my sanitizer wipes away from my classroom. I appreciate it. I hope the eco czar loses their job now.


Posted by Another Teacher
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:09 am

WHY AM I GETTING MY INFO FROM PALO ALTO ONLINE? WHERE ARE DISTRICT LEADERS AND THEIR COMMUNICATION IN EMAILS? ???????????


Posted by Old Joe
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:29 am

Peter,

As a parent with children in the PA School System for the past 19 years. I can tell you that it is ALL about politics.

WHO is this in charge and making the decisions about our kids health ? The man office won’t give you any answers and will refer you to “policy”. This is another screw up then cover up in the making. The Feds are doing nothing.

If you care about your kids, demand answers.

Again I ask : WHO is in charge and making decisions affecting our kids health ? Who ?


Posted by Martha Dogood
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:39 am

Best advice so far is to stay calm and do practical things to keep ourselves and family well.

At the same time, the world is not ending, our lives go on as the life of our country and world goes on. No one can stop the earth from making another revolution (except perhaps a very large asteroid).

With the reality of living, comes the realities of business, politics, our day to day, all of them racing forward in the time space continuum. One reality is the fact that our current irresponsible media is absolutely fanning flames of fear and panic in their reporting. Secondly, the reality of politics, which never stops, even for a pandemic, is sadly demonstrating how some are once again trying their best to exploit fear and ignorance to gain some political advantage.

Thankfully most Americans are by now fully inoculated from the virus of American media propaganda and ill intentioned politicians. It’s very important for all of to be safe physically, stay safe as we can with our health, and safe from the damage of misinformation and panic mongers.

I’ve read a lot of material on flu strains and history of flu. So far there is no clear or definitive scientific data on how this COVID-19 is statistically or significantly worse than various flu epidemics since 2000. It is simply too early for supporting many of the speculations in the media this week. The time frame needs longer to collect data over time and study actual confirmed cases by the CDC. We won’t know for at least another month enough history and data on transmission or virulence.

Yes, in the meanwhile, stay cool, stay calm, stay well everyone. Be vigilant with hand washing and other common sense flu season defense measures. We will get through this.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 10:47 am

"It is simply too early for supporting many of the speculations in the media this week. The time frame needs longer to collect data over time and study actual confirmed cases by the CDC."

Wrong. There are now more than 86 thousands confirmed cases and over 2900 deaths. That is a very large data base.

Covid 19 spreads more easily than either SARS or Mers and therefore will infect far more people and cause far more deaths.

According to the WHO as of yesterday there have already been 83,694 cases of Covid 19 vs 8,096 during the entire SARS epidemic and 2,494 during the entire MERS epidemic.

And as of yesterday there have already been 2,861 deaths from the Covid 19 virus vs 774 deaths from the entire SARS. erpidemic and 858 deaths from the Mers epidemic.

Feel free to wait for more data but do not wait to start preparing to protect yourself and your family.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 29, 2020 at 11:03 am

The panic has started. Stockpiling of hand sanitizer, wipes, and toilet paper (?) is causing lines in Costco as well as empty shelves.

Being prepared, doesn't mean going mad buying up a lifetime's supply of anything.

Personal hygiene, sensible precautions, and having supplies for a week or so, but taking more than fair share will only increase the panic. Anyone remember Y2K?


Posted by Actual cases
a resident of Palo Verde
on Feb 29, 2020 at 11:20 am

Peter - if there are 86000 confirmed cases, what is your estimate of the number of people infected with the virus?


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 11:25 am

"what is your estimate of the number of people infected with the virus?"

I am not qualified to answer that question.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Feb 29, 2020 at 11:28 am

The SF CHronicle has a very useful real-time Virus Tracker for the Bay Area.


Posted by Helen
a resident of Downtown North
on Feb 29, 2020 at 12:08 pm

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Posted by DavidZ
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Feb 29, 2020 at 12:45 pm

Lets show some leadership in the Bay Area and state of California and shut down the schools now. Start with 1 month shut down and extend with online classes if needed. Given that symptoms do not appear until as many as 14 days after exposure and that a person can be contagious before diagnosis, by the time we see actual cases in the school district it will be too late.


Posted by Person
a resident of another community
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:10 pm

So I'm reading that stores are running low on hand sanitizer and everyone is supposedly panicking.. but then I see people out at restaurants touching everything and not washing or sanitizing their hands, going to the gym and using all equipment and locker rooms with no disinfectant spray or protection. Coworkers are coughing and sneezing and touching communal things and nobody says a word.

I'm reading about people taking precautions but I see no precautions being taken what so ever.


Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on Feb 29, 2020 at 1:34 pm

Anybody selling "Keep Calm and Carry On" posters here yet?


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 29, 2020 at 2:03 pm

@Musical. Plenty of Keep Calm and Wash Your Hands posters here Web Link


Posted by listen to the capitalist Putin fan
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Feb 29, 2020 at 3:54 pm

> Is there something specific you think Pence should be doing that is not getting done by the team? You make my point, nothing helpful.

Then why appoint him if he's only going around fundraising? You make a good point - Pence is a poser.

I have a job for Pence - someone in government should go around and tell government officials to stop calling it a hoax. Start with Trump. And tell him to stop cutting funding for the CDC, Medicare and other healthcare.

Trump: "This is their new hoax"

That, my friend is calling it a hoax.

Pence was supposed to be the reasonable one that would keep control of Trump. Fail.


Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on Feb 29, 2020 at 4:04 pm

Thank you Resident, hadn't seen those yet but figured the meme would pop up somewhere.


Posted by mauricio
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Feb 29, 2020 at 6:12 pm

The head of the Caoronavirus task force declared while governor of Indiana that AIDS is just a gay disease, therefore Indiana residents who aren't involved in the "gay lifestyle" shouldn't be concerned, which created a serious increase in H.I.V. infections in Indiana. Trump, a science denier, appointed Mike Pence, a science denier and religious zealot, to head the Coronavirus task force. What could possibly go wrong?


Posted by Parent
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Feb 29, 2020 at 6:47 pm

Why didn't the PAUSD Superintendent tell people to sneeze/cough into their arm sleeve?! That is so important for containing germs! He said to sneeze into a tissue, then throw tissue away, wash hands. Cannot do that during school. Sneezing into sleeves is much more practical and less germs spread. I still see adults sneezing and coughing into their hands! STOP IT! Use your sleeve!


Posted by Parent
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Feb 29, 2020 at 6:51 pm

Agree with Martha Dogood, other viruses are shed prior to a person having symptoms too, how is this one different? Perhaps because it lasts 9 days on a surface, which is longer than 24-48 hours of most viruses. People should get into the habit of washing their hands for 20 seconds when they return home. Most people do not wash their hands long enough to kill all germs. And use a paper towel to open the bathroom door when exiting, of course.


Posted by Martha Dogood
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 29, 2020 at 7:13 pm

@Peter Carpenter:

He quotes me saying “It is simply too early for supporting many of the speculations in the media this week. The time frame needs longer to collect data over time and study actual confirmed cases by the CDC."

Then Mr. Carpenter says “Wrong. There are now more than 86 thousands confirmed cases and over 2900 deaths. That is a very large data base. Covid 19 spreads more easily than either SARS or Mers and therefore will infect far more people and cause far more deaths”.

First, at worst it’s a 2-3% death rate, and about 80% infected have mild to no symptoms.

My point is the data is fast developing, and the fact is panic is not warranted. It’s also a fact that pandemic data is never fully known or understood until at least 12 months after it started. The fact is much of main stream media is fanning flames of fear and panic, very irresponsibly.

What is the chance you may be killed in an auto accident? If you organized every day around this statistic, you’d not travel anywhere.

Of course, as I stated, everyone should be vigilant in protecting themselves and their families. Yet take a moment to review and study the real data. Here see good data from WHO, no need to lose your minds and go into panic mode, that’s not good for anyone:

Web Link

As a good doctor once told me as I cared for my father dying of cancer, asking if he was terminal, “everyone is terminal.” Do what you can to be healthy and safe today, yet panic will not help you or your family no matter what may happen.


Posted by Concerned Mom
a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 1, 2020 at 1:04 am

Has anyone looked into online schools to finish out the school year for elementary school? A number of us are concerned that PAUSD will not be proactive in this area, so we may be better served coming up with a solution ourselves this week. Schools get paid when students fill seats, so they have an incentive to keep kids at school if they don’t have a remote learning option available already...hence one reason for our concern.


Posted by Illuminato
a resident of another community
on Mar 1, 2020 at 4:43 am

Oops, I forgot - don't eat out. Cook your own food. Food is a possible vector for this disease. This comment will probably get deleted.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Community Center
on Mar 1, 2020 at 7:12 am

@Concerned Mom
Basic Aid Districts, like PAUSD, do not get their income from daily attendance. But your concern raises a good point that the state should quickly waive this formula for the 90% of districts that are not Basic Aid.


Posted by anonymous
a resident of Professorville
on Mar 1, 2020 at 9:56 am

As a community, it is important that we don't go the way of hysteria! The sky is not falling! If you want LOCAL and ACCURATE information about the coronovirus look at the website for the Santa Clara County Health Department. PAUSD will get the advice of experts, not nervous parents.