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Judge issues gag order in landlord case

Original post made on May 3, 2008

A San Francisco judge issued a gag order Friday in the case of a Palo Alto couple who have been charged with threatening and stealing from the tenants of the San Francisco apartment building they own.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, May 5, 2008, 2:52 PM

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Posted by Weeks, Paul
a resident of Stanford
on May 3, 2008 at 7:40 am

The Kip and Nicole Macy story, the "landlords from hell" sound like a movie with Michael Keaton: Pacific Heights. I guess you really never own anything in San Francisco - Your tennants do.

I doubt they did anything. Computer Engineers, like my wife, are a little nutty, but not violent or malicious.

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Posted by Dan Langille
a resident of another community
on May 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm

Paul: wow, yours is the first sane comment I've read in all of this saga. So many people are jumping to condemn the Macys. They believe everything they've read.

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Posted by Tip and Ring
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 3, 2008 at 8:16 pm

I agree with Paul. The tenants have to be making up all the stories about beams being cut, floors having saws come up from underneath, theft of money and other property, and ammonia being poured on other property. Oh yeah, the building inspectors are colluding with the tenants.

Every software engineer I've ever known was a wimp and would never think of doing anything like what's been described in a number of newspaper articles. Real estate agents, however, are a completely different beast.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on May 4, 2008 at 3:18 am

If they had just shot the tenant, they would be out on bail.

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Posted by SFC
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 4, 2008 at 6:38 pm

It's worth noting, the Macys are residents of Palo Alto. Perhaps all the previous commentators are supporters because that's the way it's done there. Explain the gag order geniuses. Innocent people usually want the facts out. Go back to Hoover Institute and develop a better idea or give Karl Rove a call.

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Posted by John Davies
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 20, 2008 at 5:58 pm

Palo Alto is not noted for being a bastion of Republican support. Perhaps Palo Altans simply have some small iota of critical thinking skills. One might safely conclude that those are lacking in residents of SF. SF is a city constantly crying about a "housing crisis" that repeatedly creates policies that reduce housing supply.

Outside of SF it was widely recognized that this article was grossly one-sided.

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Posted by SJC
a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 21, 2009 at 8:01 pm

Wonder if there is more to it:

Web Link

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Posted by To Paul
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 25, 2009 at 9:56 am

Computer engineers are never violent? Haven't you ever heard of Hans Reiser?

Of course there is more to this story. I've been reading about it for months. Even if the tenants are being less than perfectly honest, it's looking like evidence is bearing out their stories.

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Posted by Wowza
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:00 am

Once again, I have to note how often people on this board love to point the finger at EPA, given how many problems there are. But really - PA - you have your hands full, too! Shootings, violent robberies, kidnapping/rape, serial burglaries of residences and autos, cops misusing their powers of authority with illicit off-duty jobs, street crime downtown. And now - you can proudly claim not just Page Mill Properties as unscrupulous landlords, you have the charming Macys!

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Posted by SJC
a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 31, 2009 at 1:19 pm


Either you didn't read the link or you think that perjury, fraud, theft, and trespassing are acceptable behavior provided that they are done by tenants. It actually completely undermines *all* the allegations.

As for EPA, don't forget that it was the per capita murder capital of the United States until the surrounding communities got involved with policing it.

Sorry guys ... the facts simply don't bear out your statements.

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Posted by Jo Jefferson
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 31, 2009 at 1:54 pm

I haven't been paying very close attention so I don't understand the ruckus about Page Mill Properties. If they are as terrible as you say they are, move out and organize a boycott - that way you can drive them out of business. If you are staying and complaining that would indicate to me that you must be getting something you're not entitled to, in which case it would be you exploiting them.

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Posted by SJC
a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 31, 2009 at 2:53 pm

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