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Condominium project proposed next to Town & Country Village

Original post made on Jul 6, 2022

A developer has asked the city of Palo Alto for a zone change that would enable construction of a 20-condominium development next to the Town & Country Village shopping center.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, July 5, 2022, 2:19 PM

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Posted by M
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 6, 2022 at 4:29 am

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We need the housing, and I support high-density, but any way to give this building some character?

Posted by HM
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 6, 2022 at 8:16 am

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The one bedrooms are bigger and more expensive than the two bedroom units?

Posted by Gennady Sheyner
Palo Alto Weekly staff writer
on Jul 6, 2022 at 8:20 am

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@HM. Thanks for the catch and sorry for the error, which has been corrected.

Posted by I can't breathe pollution
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jul 6, 2022 at 8:37 am

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These guys always complain that we won't approve their projects- it's because they don't meet our standards! We have very wise, environmentally friendly building limits set in place. Follow them, and your project will be approved! Or you could spend years and years buying off Sacramento so they rip away our rights to govern ourselves and our city (looking at you Toni Atkins)

Posted by stephenlevy
a resident of University South
on Jul 6, 2022 at 9:59 am

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I believe the proposal includes 20% or 4 units of BMR for sale housing.

Is this correct? Are there any details on the BMR units ?


Posted by Shirley 'Mac'
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 6, 2022 at 10:35 am

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The parking lot is always full, where are shoppers suppose to park for T & C with the new housing. Hope it doesn't replace the car wash. Best available currently in our area.

Posted by stephenlevy
a resident of University South
on Jul 6, 2022 at 10:38 am

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The proposed housing is not in T&C. It is between the Opportunity Center and PAMF

Posted by Gennady Sheyner
Palo Alto Weekly staff writer
on Jul 6, 2022 at 10:42 am

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You are correct in that four units would be offered at BMR, though the applicant does not specify whether these would be sold or rented. The letter from the applicant states that "20% of units will be sold or rented as BMR units. Pricing for Below Market Rate units shall be established by the Director of Planning & Development Services in accordance with the City’s website."

Posted by SusanB
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 6, 2022 at 11:06 am

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The article refers to location as "currently a parking lot". There is a fenced off portion of the T&C parking lot on Encina Ave side that, in my understanding, is separately owned from T&C. That appears to be the location of the project. It would most certainly be close to, tower over, and be inconsistent with the architecture of T&C.

Posted by stephen levy
a resident of University South
on Jul 6, 2022 at 11:46 am

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If you read the article and look at a map, the proposed housing is on the same side of Encina as the Opportunity Center that also slightly exceeds 50 ft. They are across a street and T&C parking lot from any buildings. Go to T& C and see if you think the Opportunity Center is intrusive on T& C.

Posted by mjh
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 6, 2022 at 1:41 pm

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@Steve, What map are you looking at that shows the even Encina Avenue numbers on the same side as the Opportunity Center? According to Google Maps the even numbers are on the same side of Encina Avenue as Town and Country.

Or do you think the article got the wrong street number?

Posted by Allen Akin
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 6, 2022 at 3:58 pm

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If you check the Planning Department documents, you can see that the project occupies some of the existing T&C parking lot on the "south" side of Encina, opposite several PAMF buildings and down the street from the Opportunity Center.

Our planning website is difficult to use (I don't see a simple way to post a link to the project files), but you should be able to find the documents here: Web Link Click the "Record Info" drop down menu, select "Attachments", and you'll get a list of PDF files. The overview is called "C1_70 Encina PLAN.pdf"

Posted by Allan
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 6, 2022 at 11:07 pm

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Thank you Allen Akin for the link. The 50+ foot high Encina building covers about 55 parking spaces in the present T&C lot, and is a driveway width (about 10 feet) from the existing T&C buildings! Good bye T&C parking (and charm).

Posted by Pops9
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 7, 2022 at 9:44 am

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T&C charm? Hard to say that side of T&C has any charm. The housing would be close to the train and shopping. If people really care about housing and environmental factors (walk to shop, walk to train, walk to restaurants, condos aren't towering over single family homes), this site is about as good as it gets. If T&C is leasing some of the land for parking, T&C should have bought the land to preserve the parking spots.

Posted by Grew Up Here
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2022 at 3:44 pm

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Glad my last child just graduated from Paly. With all the condos being built in Palo Alto, the traffic will be horrendous.

Posted by stephen levy
a resident of University South
on Jul 12, 2022 at 1:53 pm

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The parking spaces owned by the project proposer have been fenced off for quite a while. I have not heard complaints about lack of parking.

I went there yesterday at busy lunch time and there were lots of diners (great) and not all the parking was full.

As to obstructing the view, one that is simply not true and two, this is a shopping center. I have not heard anyone complain that there are large buildings at Stanford shopping center.

It seems strange to complain about housing next to a shopping center, a major medical facility, a Caltrain station, ECR bus lines and near Stanford.

People are in stores or eating. I walked up and down the nearest aisle and could not see anything but what was in front of me.

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