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It's a date: Newsom recall election set for Sept. 14

Original post made on Jul 3, 2021

After months of uncertainty, the second recall election in California history will be Sept. 14, Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis announced.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, July 2, 2021, 8:50 AM

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Posted by Petra Karenter
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 3, 2021 at 7:26 am

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Vote for Caitlin. She has experience is getting rid of useless dicks.


Posted by Erin Carmody
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 3, 2021 at 8:15 am

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I am going to vote for Caitlyn Jenner, not so much for her political views but because she is taking major strides for the transgender community and its future impact and influence in politics.

Roughly 10% of the American population is LGBTQIA so that means that at least 50 members of Congress are either homosexual, bisexual, or experiencing binary gender conflicts from within.


Posted by Percy Andover
a resident of another community
on Jul 3, 2021 at 8:49 am

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Caitlyn Jenner also has my vote.

As an outstanding former male Olympic athlete who had both the courage and the balls to change genders, Ms. Jenner is an inspiration to all LGBTQIA voters and will make a most charming and delightful California governor.


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 3, 2021 at 9:58 am

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I am all for equal opportunity. However, above-3, by all reports, Caitlyn has by history been rather right wing on the issues and a supporter of Trump. Am I wrong? Please correct me if so. If I am not wrong, how could such policies represent the dark blue state of California fairly?


Posted by Lacy McPheeters
a resident of Los Altos
on Jul 3, 2021 at 10:18 am

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"Caitlyn has by history been rather right wing on the issues and a supporter of Trump...how could such policies represent the dark blue state of California fairly?"

Like any fashion conscious gal, Caitlyn will have to adjust her hemlines from time to time to address the concerns of all Californians regardless of her personal political stance on various issues.

We've had conservative Republican governors before like Ronald Reagan, George Deukmajian (sp) and Pete Wilson.

California is politically blue in regions like Marin, San Francisco, Los Angeles and the midpeninsula but in the Central Valley, Orange County, San Diego County, and most of rural California there are many Trump supporting Republicans (primarily white voters) who would gladly choose Caitlyn Jenner over our current governor.

And a transgender governor (regardless of political stance) would be most appropriate for a progressive state like California encouraging other LGBTQIA candidates to follow in her footsteps.

While this concept might not fly in places like Alabama, Mississippi or Wyoming, it is always open political season in California where the late Harvey Milk (a gay Democrat) charted the initial course and who to this day, remains a treasured hero among the active gay community.


Posted by James Harris
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 3, 2021 at 10:45 am

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Many African Americans voters voted for Barrack Obama simply because he was black and many disgruntled white voters voted for Trump because he channeled their racist concerns and discontent with the path America was taking at the time

So it is not that farfetched to assume that countless LGBTQIA voters will opt for Caitlyn Jenner regardless of political platform because she is one of them.

Not to mention that the California governorship is oftentimes a pathway to the U.S. presidency.

A former male Olympic Gold medalist in the decathlon who turned TV reality show star, then became transgender and was elected California governor and possibly an American president would be history in the making and a major stepping stone for the LGBTQIA community.

Barrack Obama accomplished a similar feat for countless African Americans who now had a political voice.


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 3, 2021 at 11:13 am

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I suggested equal opportunity not outcome, James Harris. After studying the law at Harvard Law School, Obama was a longtime public servant and served in the Illinois legislature and then as a state Senator. He then gave a very important speech for his political party at the convention. These sorts of things uh, look good on a resume. They portray seriousness and qualification for the office. After being an athlete, Jenner has done nothing except be famous. That's not the same as Obama, is it? Isn't it more like Kenye West, who most African-Americans didn't 'just vote for because he was black.'


Posted by Tamika Edwards
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 3, 2021 at 12:29 pm

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Barack Obama won because he was the best candidate regardless of color.

John McCain/Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney and whoever ran alongside him....seriously?

Kanye West is not taken seriously by the majority of intelligent African Americans.

Caitlyn Jenner will not displace Gavin Newsom but it will make for a very entertaining race.

And isn't that what California is all about?

Superficialities and attention seeking feeds the beast as most of CA is 'Hollyweird' in one way or another.

If the late Sonny Bono can be elected to Congress even Pee Wee Herman has a legitimate shot if he so chooses.


Posted by The Voice of Palo Alto
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 3, 2021 at 1:34 pm

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1. “Newsom immediately vowed to defeat the recall/ that the recall is a power grab led by "Trump Republicans" who refuse to accept the outcome when they lose elections.”
Exactly. They are completely embarrassing. Accept the results! The election fraud nonsense is such a disgrace. They will not pull this recall off and they will lose just like the twice impeached, one term President that never won the popular vote wasn’t able to win the 2020 election. But hey, he is number 41 out of 44 Presidents according to historians. Congratulations!
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2. “Already, 55 people have filed a statement of intention to run, including former San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer, former Sacramento-area U.S. Rep. Doug Ose and reality TV personality Caitlyn Jenner — all Republicans. Conservative talk show host Larry Elder also is considering a run, Politico reported.“
This is the other reason he will not be recalled. Simpleton commenters make emotional comments about how they are upset with Newsom and how he is “completely unqualified” to be Governor, but there is not one viable alternative from the Republican Party here to replace him. These candidates rank in a range from embarrassing to (really) completely unqualified.

3. “Politicians play partisan games. It's all about retaining power," GOP businessman John Cox, who lost to Newsom in 2018 and is challenging him again”
Yes John. Newsom wants to continue to be Governor. What a silly statement. John Cox is all bitter about his loss to Newsom in 2018 and is trying to sound all tough and run against him again. Well congratulations John Cox on your upcoming 2nd loss to Newsom! Take your losses!

4. “Republicans are very fired up about the recall”
Can’t these Republicans get fired up about something else? I mean besides conspiracy theories of course…

The recall will not work! California will stay BLUE!


Posted by Byron Johnston
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 3, 2021 at 3:21 pm

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Caitlyn Jenner is a legendary Olympic athlete, successful television personality,
and groundbreaking transgender celebrity.

In terms of noteworthy gubanatorial accomplishments, what has Gavin Newsome actually done other than give away an estimated $11B-$31B in wrongful EDD unemployment benefits to countless unqualified overseas recipients?

His trademark smirk speaks volumes.


Posted by The Voice of Palo Alto
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 3, 2021 at 3:51 pm

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It’s comical when commenters put that extra “e” on the end of Newsom’s name. It makes the comment look kind of silly right up front. If you don’t like Newsom that’s totally fine. But there is no way Caitlyn is remotely qualified to be Governor of California regardless of being a former Olympic athlete, successful TV personality, and groundbreaking transgender celebrity. How do any of those “qualifications” scream “I am qualified to run the Nation State of California?” They do not. But you can vote for Caitlyn if you want to obviously. It’s your vote.


Posted by Byron Johnston
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 3, 2021 at 4:06 pm

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We've had many 'unqualified' candidates who have won their respective elections...the Terminator, Jesse Ventura, Al Franken, Sonny Bono, Margorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert to name a few.

Gavin 'Newsom' comes off more like a TV weatherman than a real governor.
His trademark line could be, "the sun is always shining in California" while ending it with another smirk.

The recall election will be one where every candidate is unqualified to be governor.


Posted by Priscilla Watson
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jul 3, 2021 at 5:05 pm

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• The recall election will be one where every candidate is unqualified to be governor.

A reasonable assessment. So now what?


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 4, 2021 at 6:42 am

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One of my least favorite contemporary philosophies is: every opinion is equal. I dissent on this. It is false. Democracy is not pre-determined equality between a thoughtful, well-researched and educated opinion and one that is not.

On Salon.com today, there is a story on the topic, entitled, "They don't have the votes, but they have the guns." The assertion is that for many republicans, it's not that they are embarrassed or unhappy in any way with the insurrection (attempt to overthrow the US government) on January 6th, it's that they hope it happens again, only with more guns. Isn't this the issue we should consider for California governor? Jenner supported Trump before. Is he unhappy with January 6th only because the gun-toting psychos lost? All non-sensical rhetoric aside, we are not really talking about equally unqualified candidates, are we?


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 4, 2021 at 8:14 am

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Posted by Efren Morales
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 4, 2021 at 9:12 am

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Caitlyn Jenner is more along the lines of a Tea Party Republican...socially liberal and fiscally conservative like Senator Rand Paul R-Kentucky.

Jenner and Trump differ on transgender rights...Trump rescinded certain transgender rights (i.e. the common use of public restrooms) while Jenner promotes such measures to ensure equality.

While I am not qualified to vote, I will be watching this election with keen interest because Governor Newsom supports many social benefits for undocumented immigrants and that is a major plus in his favor.

California is a wealthy state and can afford to support economic and health programs that assist non-citizens.


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 4, 2021 at 9:23 am

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Posted by Efren Morales
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on Jul 4, 2021 at 9:57 am

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Posted by Leslie York
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 4, 2021 at 11:00 am

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My concern is that if any Republican is elected, he/she will tow the Republican party line and people of color can kiss their unfettered voting rights goodbye. It's happening in other states and it can happen here.

Olympic medals, a sex change and a reality TV career don't qualify one to govern a state, especially with no experience in public office, business or law. People scoffed when Gary Coleman wanted to be Governor. Caitlyn is no more qualified.


Posted by Ted Bates
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 4, 2021 at 11:43 am

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Posted by John B. Sails
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on Jul 4, 2021 at 12:59 pm

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Posted by Wyatt Cross
a resident of Stanford
on Jul 4, 2021 at 1:41 pm

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>> My concern is that if any Republican is elected, he/she will tow the Republican party line and people of color can kiss their unfettered voting rights goodbye. It's happening in other states and it can happen here.

Nobody has lost their voting rights.

The 2020 election necessitated alternative voting options due to the pandemic and public health protocols.

Election Day is traditionally the first Tuesday in November and voters either go to a polling place or vote by absentee ballots which they can apply for earlier as legitimate registered voters.

In 2022 and 2024 the election scenario will hopefully be different as more people have been vaccinated and SIP mandates rescinded.

Thus there is no further need for Sunday 'after church' voting options, ballot dropboxes scattered all over town, late night voting, and mass ballot mailings to who knows who.

If a person cannot get to a poll or request an absentee ballot in advance, then that is their problem as an eventual return to traditional voting procedures is neither racist nor restrictive.

What is next...online voting?


Posted by Miriam Bleeker
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 4, 2021 at 4:13 pm

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Posted by The Voice of Palo Alto
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 4, 2021 at 4:37 pm

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Posted by The Voice Of America
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 4, 2021 at 5:02 pm

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Personally speaking, I like Joe Biden as President compared to his predecessor who was bit on the unpolished side.

Republicans being who they are, will continue to create obstacles for Biden while the Democrats are torn between their moderate and progressive-left factions.

Biden could very well be a one term president and that could pose a problem because Kamala Harris is not presidential material and many voters do not like her (similar to Hillary Clinton).

That said, perhaps Gavin Newsom will enter the race and possibly become the next POTUS.


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on Jul 4, 2021 at 7:27 pm

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Posted by Gabriella Watson
a resident of Southgate
on Jul 4, 2021 at 8:09 pm

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I would not vote for Kamala Harris either and I am a female, college-educated Democrat.

If Joe Biden opts not to run in 2024, the Democrats need to come up with someone better than either Harris or Newsom.

Given the nation's current climate and despite their inherent flaws, Donald Trump or Ted Cruz could easily defeat Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom even if they were both were on the same ticket.

Kamala lacks a certain charisma and nobody takes Newsom seriously as a leader.


Posted by Biff Towers
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 5, 2021 at 7:11 am

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While it's a bit premature to be speculating on the 2024 presidential election, the best Democratic candidate would be incumbent Joe Biden if he chooses to run again and at that junction, Biden should consider dropping Kamala Harris and select a new running mate, someone who is far more personable as a presumptive future presidential candidate.

The Republicans could counter with a Donald Trump/Donald Trump Jr. ticket which would excite his supporters as once again, the classic Trump vitriole would generate incredible media attention and exposure.

Maybe a Biden/Newsom ticket to counter with no more Harris the next time around.

Current speculation is that Trump could EASILY win election as a Congressman which in turn would trigger a wave of other successful Trump-aligned midterm House candidates.

He would then be selected Speaker of the House and depose the tiresome Nancy Pelosi. Incredible congressional power in that role and a gateway to another presidential run.

In the meantime, we need to stand behind President Biden for the next four years as he is doing his very best to repair much of the damage from the previous administration.

Kamala Harris is incapable of such a role and is best relegated to a backseat position.

Please stay healthy Mr. President as many citizens of both parties do not not want to see Kamala Harris in the Oval Office.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Jul 5, 2021 at 8:28 am

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Most of us were taught to "earn" our way through life. Newsom has definitely earned his recall ballot. This will boil down to whether or not Californians are angry enough to cut him his last check, regardless of where you fall politically. Enough is enough.


Posted by Bethany Taylor
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 5, 2021 at 8:40 am

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Gavin Newsom has larger political sights and this recall election to him is akin to a pimple on an elephant's rear because the Republicans have absolutely no one to pose a serious challenge.

Governor Newsom is most likely grinning and turning his sights to a bigger picture...POTUS.

As another poster noted, Newsom would be an ideal Biden running mate and a stronger future presidential candidate than Kamala Harris.

Biden only chose Harris to procure a specific voting bloc and has since relegated her to fruitless and impossible tasks like dealing with the immigration crisis from Central America.

Biden has cleverly set-up Harris to fail in her endeavors and hasn't forgotten her scathing attacks on him during the early primaries and presidential debates.

Meanwhile, Gavin Newson is waiting in the wings with his trademark smirk.


Posted by Herschel Green
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jul 5, 2021 at 9:57 am

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The Republican Party will eventually go the way of the Federalist and Whig parties with significant and noteworthy historical footnotes.

Meanwhile most of America will move on and settle with a balancing act between the progressive-left and moderate factions of the Democratic Party.

And in time, the Democratic Party might even bifurcate and form new parties along those lines.

The Republicans have become a party of racists, white supremacists, Trump-ites, and QAnon conspiracy adherents...in other words, a lunatic fringe bordering on a clown act.

And nobody takes them seriously except the aforementioned mentalities.


Posted by Julie Romano
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 5, 2021 at 12:50 pm

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Governor Newsom if elected president would be no different than Bill Clinton.

Just another sweet-talking, song and dance act.

But a better option than Trump.


Posted by Steve Dabrowski
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 5, 2021 at 4:16 pm

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@Herschel Green,

Many Germans thought the same way about Hitler and his party in the 1930's. Many similarities these days.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Jul 5, 2021 at 5:09 pm

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Newsom should do the honorable thing and resign. His ego is in the way. He's the complete opposite of a chronic underachiever. He's accomplished above and beyond his level of competence and intellect, and it's scary.

He has what it takes to get elected. It's a different ballgame once you get there.

Regardless of the recall outcome, I hope this puts an end to his political career. I believe he had POTUS in mind when he was mayor of SF. California is the laughing stock of the country with our governor.


Posted by Robert Ortiz
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on Jul 6, 2021 at 8:25 am

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While Gavin Newsome is certainly no big prize as a California governor, name one Republican candidate who could (1) easily supplant Newsome in a recall election and if successful, (2) actually provide a better option performance-wise.

The Republicans are going to have to do a whole lot better than offering Kevin Falcouner and Caitlyn Jenner as their best candidates.


Posted by Reality Bytes
a resident of Stanford
on Jul 6, 2021 at 11:38 am

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"Biden only chose Harris to procure a specific voting bloc and has since relegated her to fruitless and impossible tasks like dealing with the immigration crisis from Central America."

"Biden has cleverly set-up Harris to fail in her endeavors and hasn't forgotten her scathing attacks on him during the early primaries and presidential debates."

^ Add to that Biden's assignment for Kamala Harris to battle GOP-led voter suppression.

Kamala Harris is finished as a future presidential candidate but at least Democrats have Gavin Newsom.

And presumptive racism aside, most white Democrats will opt for Newsom over Harris any day of the week.


Posted by The Voice of Palo Alto
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 6, 2021 at 12:59 pm

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1. “What is next...online voting?”

This is just all a rationalization to justify voter suppression and the campaign by the Republican Party to restrict voting rights. It is the “big lie” that underpins the campaign against voting rights—the claim by Trump and the bulk of the Republican Party leadership that the 2020 election was stolen and that Trump’s electoral defeat, by a massive 7.5 million votes, was the result of fraud. This claim was the basis, not merely of changes in election laws, but of the failed coup attempt of January 6, when Trump unleashed a mob of his supporters to attack the Capitol building and shut down the certification of electoral votes by Congress.

The Republican Party, which controls half the Senate and nearly half the House of Representatives, denies the legitimacy of his government. Its undisputed leader, ex-president Trump, is holding campaign-style rallies based on denunciation of the 2020 elections as illegitimate, a position shared by most House Republicans and many Republican senators, who voted against certification of Biden’s electors, even after the January 6 mob came close to killing them. There is no justification!

2. “I believe he had POTUS in mind when he was mayor of SF.”
So he does have qualifications in politics as a former Mayor to be Governor after all. He still likely has POTUS in mind. My prediction is he beats the recall, California rebounds, and it catapults him into the Presidency in 2028. Book it.

3. “California is the laughing stock of the country with our governor.”
No it’s not. DeSantis, Kemp, Reeves, Cuomo, Noem, Abbot are awful. If people view California as a “laughing-stock” who cares? Although the pandemic isn’t over as the media push and the Biden administration wants everyone to believe, California is currently rebounding under Newsom’s leadership. Also, lost amongst all the criticism of Newsom is that he potentially saved 1000s of lives in California with his early pandemic actions.


Posted by Jennifer
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on Jul 6, 2021 at 1:53 pm

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Newsom has his fans just like Trump. Blind sheep that refuse to recognize failed leaders, especially pathological narcissists. Just because you have political experience doesn't mean you're qualified. You have to be COMPETENT. Newsom was the worst mayor of SF, and the worst governor of California. If you're facing recall as a popular politician in a deep blue state, keeping in mind he's a Democrat -- read between the lines. Newsom complains of "six recall attempts in 22 months." There's a reason for it. Politicians don't face recall when they're performing well.

He does stand a chance of beating this because the Republicans don't have a compelling lineup, and the political leaning is in his favor. As a moderate Independent, I see the good and the bad of both parties.

I've had too many conversations with Newsom in the streets/restaurants of SF when he was mayor. I found myself switching the conversation back to baseball to keep from getting frustrated with him. He told me he was "drafted by the Texas Rangers." The media says he was scouted by the Dodgers and Rangers, but never drafted. Is it too late to work it out with the Rangers? They're in last place in the AL West.


Posted by Van Cook
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on Jul 6, 2021 at 4:00 pm

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- "If a person cannot get to a poll or request an absentee ballot in advance, then that is their problem as an eventual return to traditional voting procedures is neither racist nor restrictive."

Every U.S. citizen who is a registered voter should be allowed to participate in their regional + national elections but any special arrangements or voting options outside of legitimate pre-requested absentee ballots or in-person voting on the part of REGISTERED voters should not be allowed.


Posted by Phyliss Johnston
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 7, 2021 at 8:16 am

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Posted by Eunice Peters
a resident of Community Center
on Jul 7, 2021 at 9:08 am

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Michelle Obama also has an ebuliant personality, something that Kamala Harris sorely lacks.

Gavin Newsom has the 'look' of a celebrity candidate with the silver tongue of a Bill Clinton.

This will appeal to many women voters.


Posted by Ira Weisman
a resident of Stanford
on Jul 7, 2021 at 10:19 am

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White America will vote for (or elect) a minority presidential candidate providing the candidate is at least 1/2 white as Barack Obama was.

A 100% Jewish, Asian, Hispanic, or African American presidential candidates does not stand a chance because America will never abandon its trademark racism.

Racism is part of America's DNA.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 7, 2021 at 12:08 pm

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Oh Please - America is not a racist country. Only the Racist think that - the people who continually blather about race. And Newsom has zero appeal - he is like TV game show person. He looks suspciously like the Gov of Utah. Sorry - not selling anything here. He is a packaged product that blows with the wind - which ever way it is going.


Posted by Janine Goldman
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2021 at 1:17 pm

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° Oh Please - America is not a racist country. Only the Racist think that - the people who continually blather about race.

Seriously? Perhaps only people who consider The Statue of Liberty a premptive gift from France for American wartime support 50 years later down the road might hold this viewpoint...while admiring the magnolia blooms on their ancestor's former cotton plantation.


Posted by Kevin Lee
a resident of Stanford
on Jul 7, 2021 at 3:03 pm

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No one who actually studied U.S. history in high school believes that the Statue of Liberty was an early gift from France in 1886 to express their gratitude for future American military support in World Wars One and Two.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 7, 2021 at 8:06 pm

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What happened before 1776 - rockets red blare? Lots of wars bwteeen the colonist and European countries prior to US becoming a country. What did we just celebrate with song and fireworks? We - the colonist - fought wars in every colony to make states. If you visit the east coast they have reminders everywhere what wars were fought in their state.


Posted by Shamika Smith
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2021 at 8:14 pm

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@Resident 1-Adobe Meadows

Your historical reflections have nothing to do with The Statue of Liberty.

The French & Indian Wars preceding the American Revolution was between England & France.


Posted by Maurice Pinchot
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 8, 2021 at 8:28 am

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> What happened before 1776 - rockets red blare?

Another faux paux..."rockets red GLARE".

BTW/FYI...Francis Scott Key wrote this piece during the War of 1812.

Good grief, what are they teaching kids in school these days?

And if the preceding post was written and conceived by an adult, even sadder.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 8, 2021 at 1:27 pm

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You are all busy trying to distract from the subject at hand - the current Gov of CA.
Note that our past mayor is now on a CA funded effort concerning the bay. The SFC has a large piece today 07/08 front page "A new look at tsunami dangers". Whole page in back with maps. We have government funded agencies producing reports that each point up an issue of relevance to all of the taxpayers of this state. And at the top level they appear to be ignored. The Oakland A's want to put extensive housing in a location that is most vulneable to flooding. And they want taxpayer money to do that. This activity will interfere with the port which is the supply chain for most of the norcal businesses that need supplies from China. Cosco for one who is going to build a new supply chain facility in Hayward.

THe housing agency in SF is busy pushing for building in vulnerable areas in the bay area. PA is skating by with with some problems but MV has bigger problems - they have more land east of 101 the area that is bay fill.

Where is the Governor who is suppose to read these reports and use them to make decisions as to how the government agencies are suppose to be managing their efforts? Bulking up housing in the bay area? A baseball park on the most vulnerable piece of property in the bay area? Interference with the port system which is a bread and butter employer for the state?
The man only reacts to the current group of advocates which are pushing for agendas which are counter-productive to this state. Running a state is about the state - not the next bracket of political points for a future election.


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 9, 2021 at 7:57 pm

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Jennifer offers many ad hominem insults against our Governor, without any real evidence. I also lived in SF when he was Mayor, and know that he had the support of a significant majority of residents, just as he does now as Governor.

The Voice of Palo Alto purports to speak for team blue. So, mostly appreciate his posts. However, one sentence catches my eye as false: "Although the pandemic isn't over as the media push and the Biden Administration wants everyone to believe..."

Which media push is that? That the pandemic is over? The media I see every day is still largely overly fearful, hand-ringing, and fatalistic about this "new normal" that we should all think long and hard before taking off our masks and enjoying ourselves in public, et., al. The click bait media wants to scare, not console. The most risk adverse should determine the acceptable risks permitted for everyone. That seems to be the (highly objectable) theme I get from media coverage of the pandemic, even now.

--and Biden administration wants everyone to believe it's over? That's not true either. Every day I see the opposite, he didn't meet his July 4th goal, so he goes on and on now about the vaccine, the variants, the terrible Covid, the sacrifices we should all make for the still enduring Covid, that sort of thing.


Posted by The Voice of Palo Alto
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 10, 2021 at 12:16 am

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What I was referencing was, as Biden’s 4th of July speech took place COVID-19 cases throughout the United States increased 15 percent in one week, amid a global resurgence of the pandemic fueled by the new, deadlier “Delta” variant of the disease. In defiance of the WHO and all leading experts, the Biden administration and the CDC have urged the abandonment of mask mandates and called on unvaccinated people to end voluntary social distancing. See the CDC’s politically motivated school “guidance” from earlier today for yet another example.

The theme of Biden’s speech was to declare America’s independence from the social distancing measures necessary to stop the spread of COVID-19. The achievement of the past year, he said, was to reopen businesses and schools, leading the US economy to come “roaring back.”

“245 years ago we declared our independence from a distant king,” Biden said. “Today we're closer than ever to declaring our independence from a deadly virus… We can live our lives, our kids can go back to school, our economy is roaring back.”

He continued, “Businesses are opening and hiring again. We’re seeing record job creation, and record economic growth, the best in four decades, and I might add, the best in the world. Today all across this nation, we could say with confidence, America is coming back together… Today, while the virus hasn't been vanquished, we know this—it no longer controls our lives, it no longer paralyzes our nation.”

The conclusion was clear. While cases and deaths may surge with the spread of the Delta variant, the Biden administration will continue with its program of reopening businesses and schools, no matter the cost.

The media I was referring to was the mouth pieces of the financial elite, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post.

Finally, the vaccines are being presented as the “silver bullet” to end the pandemic. Only 47% of the U.S. population is fully vaccinated. Masks should still be advised by the CDC.


Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 10, 2021 at 6:54 am

John B. Sails is a registered user.

Respectfully:

Case #'s were never death #'s (even fat old Trump survived it). and "Closer than ever" is accurate.

and sorry, I'm a Bernie guy, still have his bumper sticker on the mini-van even, but the continued criticisms against the economy, businesses are hiring again, the dreaded reopening of schools, mean-old Wall Street and the financial elites just sound overly parochial and silly (like gang-signs from a trust-fund brat). Are all of these belittlements of the economy supposed to be in honor of the working poor? They're not. A lot of people tend to think making a financial living is kind of important, even that to work hard at one or more jobs (many of which cannot be performed in your PJ's at home) is a good thing because in America, if you can make and save sufficient money, that allows you to live in a less dangerous place where maybe your kids aren't hit with wrenches while waiting for busses and so forth. Your public schools might be...decent. Therefore, a near 100% prevention from death simply by taking the vaxxes is what most non-morbidly risk adverse people would find acceptable risk.

Finally, I for one am glad the CDC is not demanding mask-wearing. It is NOT my opinion that they should. Presumably, because VOPA is a learned and reasonable person, he expresses this opinion on behalf of the anti-vaxxers, because science tells us it is THEY who might die not the vaxxers. However, to that point, the anti-vaxxers believe so many ridiculous things like there are microchips and cameras inside the needles, so why should we continue to paralyze our lives for these 'flat-earthers'? If so truly concerned about them, and saving their lives, why not promote a public fitness message, as suggested by Bill Maher? -with a catchy slogan such as "Stop obesity now!" Wouldn't that save more lives in a fairer way than making the young, the fit, the desperate to work, and the fully vaxxed continue to wear a mask simply because some people like to tell others what to do?


Posted by Ferris Young
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jul 10, 2021 at 7:06 am

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How does one promote a 'Stop Obesity Now' concept without being accused of 'fat shaming'?

If one emphasizes the dangers (i.e. diabetes, heart disease, stroke etc.) you will be told to mind your own business.

If one cites improved physical appearance one will be accused of having a Barbie doll mindset.

And of course one will be forced to endure the usual list of alibis (i.e. I have large bones, a slow metabolism, it runs in the family etc.).

I choose to look the other way because you cannot save people from themselves and besides, some people don't seem to care about their personal appearance or health.



Posted by John B. Sails
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 10, 2021 at 7:35 am

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Yes, I know, Ferris Young, you are right, it was just a rhetorical suggestion, kind of a utopian 'what if/wouldn't it be better?' thing. and I do see some some nuance of course that should limit absolutes. For example. I was in Texas last Christmas (boo says the blue team). Only it was Austin. (yea says the blue team). It was great getting out and about, if with masks. Then heading to the country (boo says the blue team) less and less masks. This was last December. Did you know Texas as a state is actually trending purple? It is. They also like football (boo says the blue team).

I guess what I am most afraid of is the blue team losing two groups completely that they absolutely do not have to lose unless they are self-righteous jerks to them all the time: civil libertarians and the working poor.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Jul 10, 2021 at 8:11 am

Jennifer is a registered user.

I've never lived in SF, nor have I ever cared about SF politics. Like most people in SF during business hours, I was trying to work for a living, and I didn't want to be bothered by him. It's not my responsibility to post "evidence." Everything that Newsom is up to is well documented in the media, and there is no reason to rehash... aka give you something to argue with. If you like him and his politics -- fine. Others don't, including me. I do care about California politics, and California can do better. The only good governors we've had (IMO) were Warren, Reagan, Brown Sr. and Brown Jr. Two Republicans and two Democrats. We deserve a better track record.


Posted by Baron Wong
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jul 10, 2021 at 8:26 am

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"The only good governors we've had (IMO) were Warren, Reagan, Brown Sr. and Brown Jr."

As CA governor, Earl Warren-R approved the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

And Ronald Reagan-R came down very heavily on campus unrest and protests during the late 1960s.

Jerry Brown-D in the 1970s appointed Rose Bird as Chief Justice who redefined permissiveness via her extreme liberal leanings and was removed from office.

Pat Brown was OK but was defeated by Reagan.

A bad CA track record of governors.


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