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City Council rejects appeal, allows Verizon to install wireless equipment

Original post made on Jul 1, 2021

Rejecting an appeal from a group of residents, the Palo Alto City Council approved last week a plan by Verizon to install wireless equipment on three city poles.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, July 1, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 1, 2021 at 10:47 am

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Personally speaking, the utilities poles and the various wires hanging from them are a blot on our streetscape already. I don't think adding another box to them will make them less attractive than they already are. Making them inconspiculous is a joke when we already have the ugly poles.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2021 at 11:58 am

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AT&T just put in new lines on the telephone poles. My property is a juncture point. My internet was down for a period which pointed up a number of issues I was unware of - including the war of inernet useage by all of the various IT companies. The squirrels have had a brain change. They argue over the new line and a number have left the scene. Those the use the lines for the Squirrel highway keep trying to bite it. Verizon will not be using lines of wire but will be emanating some type of activity. They need to talk about what is the effect of the transmissions on the oeverall systems and in the vicintiy of the poles.


Posted by Benny Cardoza
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2021 at 1:19 pm

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- The squirrels have had a brain change. They argue over the new line and a number have left the scene.

How can you be absolutely sure that the squirrels were debating the issue?

Do you speak squirrelize?


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2021 at 1:24 pm

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Yes - I have favorites who come in to get their peanuts from a bag. This is their home. I am talking both the grey and black squirels. They come and hang put here. They have to be gone - there are no bodies out there. No bodies on the street side.

Some residual squirrels down the street - homes which have the lines but no big conjunction pieces. It is the conjunction of all of the pieces - Comcast, AT&T, city utility for electricity.


Posted by Bland
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 2, 2021 at 4:07 pm

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There is a key point missing from this story. The cell tower at 850 Webster (=Channing House) is unique and should NOT have been approved by Councilmembers Cormack, Filseth, Tanaka and Burt. According to the report prepared by the City’s own expert, this particular cell tower exceeds FCC radiation limits at a height of 28 feet above ground, making it unsafe for humans. There are already two other sources of radiation at Channing House: a T-Mobile macro cell tower on the roof, and an AT&T cell tower in front of Channing House health center. So the addition of a third results in this cell tower uniquely violating FCC thresholds.

The City Staff’s “fix” is to require that this particular Verizon cell tower be shut down whenever work is scheduled to take place in nearby trees or on the utility lines. But there is no provision for blocking access to the pole and nearby trees (i.e., nothing to prevent anyone from climbing them). Nor is there a plan for protecting people in their homes (apartments with balconies are the norm in the area), even though the closest residence is only 45 feet away.

I think City Council should have adhered to the FCC safety threshold requirements and required this particular pole to be relocated. Not doing so sets a bad precedent.


Posted by Annette
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 11, 2021 at 6:53 pm

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Kudos to Kou and Stone for voting as they did.

But what's the point in adding the condition that Verizon do additional outreach to Channing House? That is akin to adding insult to injury since the residents have no recourse if they have a concern or objection.

Director Lait's hand in this fuels a concern that he functions w/o much accountability. At the very least he should respect public noticing requirements. A growing number of residents are concerned about the way Senior Staff disregards Residents. The way Lait handled this gives credence to those concerns.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 11, 2021 at 7:47 pm

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This morning at 5:10 AM there was some type of electrical noise outside. Like a charging section being turned on? THe city has to explain the added impact of the new AT&T 5G lines. There must be a lot of electricity that is going through that line.
Things are happening that are not fully discussed before hand - our utility department may not be up to snuff to carry the added impact. Add the Verizon impact. Lots of electricity employed to carry all of this traffic. Someone who knows needs to evaluate the total impact ofall of the activity that is going on.


Posted by Arielle Davis
a resident of Professorville
on Jul 12, 2021 at 8:22 am

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5g is being overhyped by the carriers to sell more 5g phones and service plans.

To date 5g is limited in coverage and the data transfer speed is not much faster than 4g LTE.

Only by mounting more 5g cell towers can 5g communications & data fulfill it's advertised advantages over 4g.

4g will be around for the next ten years or so while gradually being supplanted by 5g.

New cellphone generations emerge every ten years or so but each one lasts for about twenty before eventually being phased out.

1g (analog) is long gone with 2g & 3g (digital) pretty much finished.

6g development is already underway and with its even shorter micro-wavelength, more health concerns will arise but since many of us older folks will already be deceased (or dying) prior to its fullscale implementation around the mid-2040s, who cares?


Posted by Loren Pfister
a resident of another community
on Jul 12, 2021 at 8:50 am

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The race to 6g development is already underway at several U.S. universities and abroad as we do not want China beating us to the punch.

And yes, while 6g may pose some potential and additional health hazards,many younger people (especially online gamers and social media types) prioritize data speed over health concerns.

Tin hat jokes aside, an anti-radiation headband or helmet could easily become standard faire as the shorter microwaves emanating from 6g towers and countless handsets become more ubiquitous than ever.

This is the price we pay for technological advances as pollution and health endangerments are natural by-products.

Even electric cars can be perceived as eco-unfriendly given that their batteries are extremely toxic and must be recycled or disposed of in a responsible manner.


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