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East Palo Alto's RV Safe Parking program provides services for residents in transition

Original post made on Jun 27, 2021

Since 2019, WeHOPE has operated an RV Safe Parking Program at 1798 Bay Road. The parking lot provides a safe place for up to 20 RV dwellers to park their vehicles for free.

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Posted by Larry Costa
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jun 27, 2021 at 9:34 am

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Palo Alto could take a cue from EPA and Mountain View in pro-actively dealing with the homeless problem.

But no...some residents are too concerned with expensive handbag thefts, watering their personal Sequoia trees, closing off University & California Avenues for added dining-out options, establishing an insignificant history museum, and other deep concerns.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 27, 2021 at 12:31 pm

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Gee Larry - we have a navigation center next to T&C and a RV camp at Buena Vista. We have a safe parking enter on Geng Road. Why don't you recognize what we have done.


Posted by Justin Turley
a resident of Barron Park
on Jun 27, 2021 at 2:19 pm

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@Resident-1 Adobe Meadows

Not good enough. When PA follows in the footsteps of MV and EPA, we'll resume this discussion.

Until then, it appears PA is not doing nearly enough to ease the homeless problem.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 27, 2021 at 3:04 pm

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Always Barron Park. Did you not notice that the city of Los Alto borders your neighborhood at Barron Creek next to Los Altos Avenue? Your neighborhood is squished in between Los Altos and SU property at Matadero Creek. Have driven throuhg your neighborhood and you now have very nice, pricey homes there. If anyone wants to check out your neighborhood then they need to drive through to the end where the park is. Do you want a tent city on your park? Given all of the pricey homes in your section what do you suggest?
The first issue in this city now is SAFETY and SECURITY Read the poilice log in your local paper - problems all over the city with breakins, car thefts, etc. WE have had it with all of the discombobulation going on. I do not see any RV's in your neighborhood - just newer pricey homes.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 27, 2021 at 3:13 pm

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Face it. It's never good enough for the trolls. They'll never admit anything good that's been done.


Posted by Homeless And Satisfied In PA
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 27, 2021 at 3:31 pm

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Having recently arrived in Palo Alto from Santa Cruz and speaking for myself, as long as one does not loiter, antagonize residents and shoppers, or randomly litter, Palo Alto is not a bad place to be homeless.

Just stay out of sight of the downtown PAPD patrols and do not panhandle or appear drunk in public.

The libraries afford a place to towel bathe and with the relaxation of coronavirus restrictions, park restrooms are now open to the public.

Also looking forward to camping out at Foothills Park as there are times you just want to escape the suburban sprawl.

Palo Alto is a mecca for transients providing one keeps a low profile and with food stamps, social services assistance and an Obamaphone one can get by.

Life is good, given the circumstances.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 27, 2021 at 5:55 pm

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There is a white Dodge van with stolen license plates that situates itself around the area. The licnese expired in May 2019. It says it is the property of San Marino - that is in Socal. The license plates have a 1995 issued number starting with a 2. I have reported it to the police. Stolen?

Just what we need is a bunch of people who think life is good here in stolen license plate vans. Those are the people that come into your neighborhood and take bikes, anything else that is not anchored down to sell for food.

What is even stranger is that Santa Cruz is a destination place now. More open land to hide out in. Showers on the beach. More acceptance of people in casual clothes.
Do people think we are handing out free money here? Do we have non-profit groups who are selling our city out to homeless people?

Read your papers - a lot of cities are now starting to clear homeless camps. People have had it with discombobulation.

Note on license plates - the state is paying people to give up their cars for $1,500. The license plates for those cars may still have time left in the expiration date. Someone is making money selling those license plates which now make stolen cars unidnetifiable. A side business for the employees of the state?


Posted by Willow Pahne
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 27, 2021 at 7:36 pm

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> the people that come into your neighborhood and take bikes, anything else that is not anchored down to sell for food.

Oftentimes to buy illicit drugs (i.e. meth) or alcohol as well...so don't leave them something to steal.

> a lot of cities are now starting to clear homeless camps.

Many cities are also buying/leasing motel occupancies or creating pre-fabricated housing units to accomodate the homeless.

Palo Alto could do the same...if it actually cared about addressing this problem.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 27, 2021 at 8:46 pm

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Many communities have bought space in motels for the homeless but a lot do not want to participate in that program. If they go live in a motel they are now scrutinized and expected to participate in programs to get them back on their feet. And no drugs in the motels. Also they are now named and tracked for a program. Cities are investing in all type of strategies to help but not all strategies are helpful or successful. Palo Alto has facilitated a number of different stategies - not all advertised.
What is the deal here? Why do people keep thinking that PA has not deliviered on a process that is totally successful? You are dealing with a lot of people who all have a lot of issues and we cannot be expected to resolve everyone's issues. This creates a one-sided conversation - the homeless are the other side of the conversation. They have to step up and do their job here.


Posted by Simon Platte
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jun 28, 2021 at 9:26 am

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I can sort of understand Resident 1-Adobe Meadow's position....if more accomodations for the homeless are made, then even more of them will come to Palo Alto and we can't have that!


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 28, 2021 at 9:47 am

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The city of MV is having a large argument about using a motel in the low cost section of MV/ECR. The neighbors are up in arms about this. Every city that is trying to do this is having pushback from the neighbors of those projected motel sites. That is the bay area in total. Quit trying to peg PA as being different in what they will accept and reject. Our hotels and motels are not the low cost type. Even though they are old. They are someone's business. Every business has a right to make decisions which will determine if they can even stay in business without going bankrupt.


Posted by Simon Platte
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jun 28, 2021 at 9:53 am

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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 28, 2021 at 10:46 am

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Barron Park is going through a major overhaul. If you go bACK two blocks behind ECR you start seeing very nice homes and neighborhoods. Keep driving back to the park - it is not a cheap place to be. And it is not as compact as the PA downtown neighborhoods.

ECR is being dug up and rebuilt. Those one and two story motels will be replaced with large apartment buildings, starting to happen now. They are still someone's business and they should not have to go bankrupt. Big hotels by the SJX San Jose airport and downtoen are having bankruptcy issues. You can't drive people out of business.


Posted by Lauren Costanza
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 29, 2021 at 8:54 am

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Some of those Barron Park motels along El Camino Real have been around since the late 1940s/early 1950s and hardly qualify as quaint.

And the same can be said of the old President Hotel on University Avenue.

All of these structures should be demolished in due time.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 29, 2021 at 12:06 pm

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The old motels on ECR are not in themselves of value - the property they are sitting on is very desirable and high value. All these people who keep talking about this topic sound like a bunch of investors who can't wait for them to go bankrupt and get them for nothing. There is more to the politics of the "homeless" then what you see on the surfae. A lot of property is changing hands right now. A lot of the buyers are from out-of-state. The small wineries in Napa and Sonoma are a good example - push the owners into sales to big buyers. I would rather the owners of those motels get to reap the rewards for hanging in so long.


Posted by cmarg
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Jun 29, 2021 at 1:36 pm

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I do feel that the real challenge is that people keep thinking that if we do XYZ, it will help the homeless. What I don't feel we understand is what the homeless who have been on the streets so long, really want. Perhaps they want autonomy and the ideas proposed require they follow rules. There are homeless families with some family members working that want help. What I feel many of the posts are talking about are those homeless who may never want to be within a structured place. I feel there are various categories of homeless and what gets challenging is trying to make one big container of all homeless. Just like those who live in Palo Alto, everyone is not extremely wealthy and the majority of residents are actually renters, not home owners. The program being done by ProjectWeHope is terrific. There are significant rules and guidelines that must be followed in order to be at their lot and even to go into the shelter.
I feel it would be extremely helpful for people to go over to places like ProjectWeHope and the Opportunity Center. Volunteer there and see what is really happening there. Find out about their clients and who they will not take within their environments.
We all need to seek to understand. There are quite a number of resources that exist in Palo Alto, Santa Clara County and also San Mateo County.


Posted by Orville Bentley
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 29, 2021 at 1:46 pm

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The Hyatt Cabana would make a good homeless shelter.

Plenty of small rooms and the kitchen/dining areas could be put to practical use.

No one stays at that place anymore.


Posted by The Moral Compass
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 29, 2021 at 3:03 pm

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I tried once to reserve and pay for a pair of rooms at a modest PA motel to provide temporary shelter for two homeless individuals and the proprietors refused service.

Their suggestion...go to a Motel 6.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 29, 2021 at 4:51 pm

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If Orville lives in College Terrace then how does he know what goes on at the Hyatt Cabana? When you get some games going at SU it will be filled with people. I just came from that area and it looked pretty busy to me - people are getting ready to rock amd roll.


Posted by Ruben Martinez
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 2, 2021 at 8:12 am

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Perhaps the various midpeninsula cities need to maintain massive unkept shrubbery havens where the homeless can discreetly establish private enclaves away from public sight.

I have seen such living environments in southern California, even in the nicer and more exclusive communities.

The inhabitants come out during the early AM hours to forage and then return to these hidden encampments.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 2, 2021 at 10:59 am

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Moral Compass - Motel 6 has an agreement with the government. It is a business transaction between Motel 6 and the government. People are running businesses here. Each business has a responibility to manage their business within the financial requirements to avoid bankruptcy.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 3, 2021 at 10:50 am

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Ruben - we are now in fire prevention time with very high heat. Everyone - including the city - are required to mainatin vegetation to reduce potential fires. That is what is required by the state, the county, and the city. And the homeowner's insurance. What you suggested will not work in EPA - they are very busy right now in a major city upgrade and looking to clean-up and fix-up. Major new neighborhoods going in now and new charter schools. The homeless need to go to the places that the cities have set up for them.


Posted by James Harris
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 3, 2021 at 11:01 am

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The U.S. Navy should consider donating some unused sections of Moffett Field for a homeless city as many of the housing, medical, and recreational facilities are already intact.

Such an environment would then be out of the view and festering contempt of various PA homeless haters by also providing ample space for transient RVs.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 4, 2021 at 7:05 pm

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Moffett Field is an EPA site. Effort is underway to resolve the toxic elements which are going throgh the sewer systems. The US Navy is working with the EPA and contractors to resolve these issues. The unused sections are UNUSED for that specific reason.


Posted by Gabriella Watson
a resident of Southgate
on Jul 4, 2021 at 8:28 pm

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If Moffett Field is that badly polluted, why not earmark parts of it for a regional dumpyard?

Detoxifying the ground will take decades and involve exorbitant costs.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 7, 2021 at 12:14 pm

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Moffatt Field has many uses - including a lease to Google. FEMA is storing goods there for any problems. A university has a site there. It is an active airfield - used for classified flights and presidential landings. It is a functioning location that is government owned and leased out to the various big wigs. Go visit it. Find out what is going on in your backyard.


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