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After hiatus, Pat Burt looks to return to City Council

Original post made on Jun 11, 2020

Pat Burt, a two-time mayor and one of the leading architects of Palo Alto's land-use policies and infrastructure plans, is eyeing a return to the City Council.

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Posted by Big Thinker
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:37 pm

Pat Burt is back! Our city will be better off for it come this January when he returns to city council.

We need a big thinker like him who knows this town inside and out, how it works and doesn’t, what community is and isn’t, has good values and sticks up for them. He has a big view of things, snapping single issues together like legos into a cohesive whole that often makes it easier and more efficient to deal with together for a better outcome.

He is good for residents and the best in our upcoming struggle in these economic times.


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Posted by Great news! Pat Burt gets my vote.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:42 pm

This is great news! Pat Burt always was a representative who listened well and is persuaded by facts, not ideology. I appreciate his values, supporting affordable housing and thoughtfully balancing growth. He is a very strong fiscal manager. We NEED that now.

Pat Burt has my vote.


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Posted by Palo Alto resident
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:43 pm

So happy to see Burt stepping up. His is exactly the experience and smarts we are gong to need to steer the city into a recovery from this pandemic.


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Posted by Good news!
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:46 pm

Pat has proven he can get things done in the city. Perhaps even more importantly, he has spent recent years really getting out in the community, listening, advising, and helping to build broad coalitions on key issues - coalitions that defy the" us vs. them" divisive mentality of recent years.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:46 pm

Best news so far.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:54 pm

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Posted by Go Pat Go
a resident of The Greenhouse
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:55 pm

Pat is a decisive leader who has been missed on Council. He speaks his mind and argues his position backed up with facts.


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Posted by Finally, someone with ACTUAL experience
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:56 pm

Pat Burt can get things done! He manages to both get colleagues on council to work towards consensus and push Staff to deliver. He's exactly what we need to get us out of this fiscal crisis.

Even the incumbent council members don't have the experience that Pat has with city government- plus he's a tech founder who has tangible financial experience in the real world.

Pat's engaging and he doesn't sit back and let staff lead him by the nose.

Our Mayor claims to be pro-housing and then voted against the fees that would pay for housing.

Pat has actually worked to make affordable housing a reality. If you care about actually getting things done - then vote for Pat Burt.


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Posted by He can help!
a resident of Palo Verde
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:59 pm

Mr. Burt’s past fiscal leadership on council plus his deep dive on the business tax would be a big help as we adjust to this COVID 19 era - both in sensibly guiding expense reductions and figuring out how to rebuild revenues.

And to the extent grade separations remain a city priority, he will be a huge asset on the dais as he’s been actively involved and informed on the very complex decisions ahead.


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Posted by He keeps coming back
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:59 pm

LOL. I noticed that recently pat had been posting quite a bit on TSF. I speculated that pat was trying to rehabilitate his image, given his 8 years of non accomplishments on the council, and was prepping for another run fur the council. [Portion removed.]


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 2:10 pm

Kou, Burt, Lauing, Eisenberg, Templeton. That's already more than enough to choose from. Let's just close it now and choose.


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Posted by Jack
a resident of Mountain View
on Jun 11, 2020 at 2:22 pm

We are now facing crises with Covid 19, a flailing economy, racism, possible reallocating of police funding, determining how schools will re-engage and addressing the many mental health issues facing our youth. We therefore need a strong and Experienced Leader who will look at the data, listen to his community and stand up for the rights of all!


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Posted by Strong financial manager with DEEP experience in transportation and planning.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 2:36 pm

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Posted by NeilsonBuchanan
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2020 at 2:44 pm

This "early surge" of council candidates is great. Voters will have a good chance to open their minds to pressing issues and best, practical solutions. I think the business tax is overdue and will be more evident as budget realities come home to roost in the next 6 months. Affordable housing is very difficult to finance. Pat, however, has a good grasp of what affordable housing really is. He can differentiate the urge to embrace more luxury housing and office space.

My main concern about Pat and all other candidates is that they are showing the normal political practice of over-promising what can be done. Nobody, for example, can have total confidence that the FY20/21 budgets are realistic. Palo Alto has enormous capacity to excel but the Council and Staff have the unfortunate tendency to make knee jerk moves without professional analysis. The next Council in 2021 must not continue analysis paralysis and constant revision of priorities each January. Important "stuff" always has multi-year timelines.

The next two years will require a sober council mastering fiscal and political basics. Pat is clearly up to the challenges.


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Posted by South Palo Alto resident
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 11, 2020 at 3:14 pm

I am absolutely thrilled that Pat Burt is running again. Here is a person who is smart, hard working, and who brings with him a ton of experience. He has in depth knowledge of transportation issues; he is skillful in budget management; he is creative at problem solving.....and he listens....not only to his fellow council members but also his constituents. We will all benefit from his dedication and expertise. He’s got my vote!


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Posted by anon
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 11, 2020 at 3:32 pm

Pat is tried and true
Will do his job without personal self interest

Even if you don’t like every one of his decisions in the past he can think and can think past untruths and he is not corrupt


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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2020 at 3:42 pm

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Posted by Pat Burt loves Palo Alto
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm

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on Jun 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm

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a resident of Downtown North

on Jun 11, 2020 at 3:55 pm

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Posted by Przemek Gardias
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 11, 2020 at 4:33 pm

Very welcomed news. Congratulations!


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 11, 2020 at 5:39 pm

I support Pat Burt, never met him personally but have viewed city council meetungs on cable and read many news reports including him. He appears to be a calm and intelligent civic leader. I will,vote for him. I have agreed many times with his views and points.


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Posted by Citizen PA
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 5:48 pm

"Burt was part of the council that in 2013 approved a residential project on Maybell Avenue that included 60 units for low-income seniors and 12 single-family homes, an action that voters overturned in a referendum later that year. But while that issue pitted his philosophy against that of Tom DuBois and Eric Filseth (both of whom opposed the project "

Please correct this characterization which is once again wrong. The council ordinance that was disputed was the upzoning of the property, largely for the sake of the 60% of the property that was for-profit, not the project itself. A for-profit developer wanted to put 3-story houses up on tiny lots -- go look at the massive homes going up there now and imagine them being 50% taller and twice as many on the Maybell side.

The neighbors objected to the neighborhood zoning and thus the whole dominant land use of the area being so drastically changed, especially for a majority for-profit project. The city was basically selling the zoning of the whole neighborhood, in a way that they didn't do in the Alma street project downtown (that one complied with zoning). There was never any rejection of an affordable housing project there or any vote on the project. The vote was on changing the zoning of a residential area. Residents asked (in council meetings) for a working group to ensure the affordable housing got built there, some of the same residents who rebuffed a development on the Terman school site 20 years earlier that saved the school and got affordable housing built next to it.

The ordinance, the vote and the referendum were never on the "project" and there was never any prohibition on affordable housing being built there. The city attorney wrote the ballot in such a biased way, a lot of people never understood this, and this erroneous reporting of it continues to enforce that error.

If the project had been conceived as only affordable housing from the getgo and had only the affordable homes with less density and impact, there would have been much broader support and collaboration to make it happen, especially if the subsequent council had managed to get larger impact fees for it. A survey in the neighborhood prior to the referendum found this was the preferred developed use over even single-family homes. (The preferred use overall was to preserve the orchard as much-needed park space, which the parks and rec report acknowledges is needed on this side of town.)

The city attorney mischaracterized the referendum on the ballot in a way that constituted advocacy (there was an article in the Weekly about the letter from the neighborhood about that). That sort of advocacy by city staff regarding referenda and initiatives is why the City of San Francisco changed their election code so that they decide ballot language through an impartial process, not by the city attorney.

The Weekly should not continue to make that error in reporting on Maybell, because among other things, it furthers misunderstandings and divides in ways that hurt the ability of advocates to come together and do at Maybell what had been done at Terman, and makes low-income residents feel there is animosity that isn't really there. There has been broad support for low-income projects since this, and there would have been broad support for low-income housing in that same spot if residents' concerns and energy had been given the same respect as downtown residents'.

The mistake does make me wonder if
1) Pat Burt has learned to have any more concern/respect for residents on the South side of town than before, and
2) if the pandemic has at all changed people's lack of concern for the drive to seriously densify where it's totally inappropriate and even unsafe.

I really wish people would stop mischaracterizing Maybell. For residents, it was about overdevelopment. For a long time, affordable housing has been built as a minor side effect of development. But now, overdevelopment is ratcheting up costs and displacing more low-income people than are ever going to be helped by this kind of overdevelopment. People of color are being pushed out en masse from these new densifying tech economies, which aren't even wise as the pandemic has shown so suddenly. Had neighbors not been able to rebuff the overdevelopment, there is no way that Buena Vista would have been saved, it would have gone the way of the President Hotel with residents evicted. Because residents were able to overturn upzoning in the same part of town, which no one believed they could do before they did, the large developer in contract with the owner at Buena Vista pulled out right after the referendum result, and no other big developers bit despite the owner trying. Residents realized this was at stake with the upzoning at Maybell, too, and although they took a lot of abuse in the paper, many worked harder on the referendum knowing if they lost, that BV would be next to impossible to save with the developers knowing they could upzone there, too.

Continuing to mischaracterize the subject of the vote does a disservice to residents, and to the members of the council who have been doing far more to actually try to help affordable housing (Filseth, Dubois) than those who have used a lot of loud rhetoric but when push comes to shove, vote against reasonable low-income interests because they're really just trying to push density for large tech companies (Fine, Kniss). Unfortunately, my memories of Burt have been more the latter. A lot of us remember how Greg Scharff transformed to a residentialist just long enough to get voted and then he turned into the worst developer shill again. Pat Burt, if you want us to vote for you again, please show us in a way that we can trust that that will not happen to you, too.


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Posted by common sense
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 11, 2020 at 5:58 pm

Pat Burt is intelligent and opinionated; but he's the type of person who thinks they are always right, and doesn't listen very well. His support for residents has always been half hearted

So far the candidates who have declared doesn't impress, and it's going to be voting for the candidates who will do the least damage.


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Posted by Here is Pat Burt's web site link.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 6:15 pm

I, for one, am supporting Pat. I have worked with him on many projects over more than two decades. He listens well and takes time to study all sides of issues. I respect his thought process and values. I think he will be a great addition to City Council. Welcome back, former Mayor Pat Burt!

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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 11, 2020 at 6:25 pm

"Intelligent and Opinionated." Sounds good to me.

I'm grateful for his comments,during the recent complicated and contentious budget process> He was responsive to questions, dug for substantive answers and provided links to key information.

That type of fact-based responsiveness beats sloganeering and fairy tales in my book.

@Citizen PA cites important background information that too often gets lost or drowned out by well-funded campaigns, A somewhat recent example was density advocate Former Commissioner Downing's claim that PA didn't want tech startups. Her "misquote" was repeatedly endlessly in the local and then national press and no amount of logic, denials or facts mattered.


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Posted by ALB
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 11, 2020 at 7:55 pm

Pat Burt is passionate about our town. He is sharp and possesses a keen sense of humor. He has always done his homework on the issues before the council and planning commission. As we are living through turbulent times mainly the pandemic, the threat of losing our democracy, and facilitating CHANGE that must occur regarding the reform of our police department -- I want Pat Burt to contribute his clear-minded focus on these issues. He is disciplined and focussed. Thank you, Pat, for running for council.


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Posted by wrong side of the train tracks resident
a resident of Escondido School
on Jun 11, 2020 at 11:22 pm

Pat's in-depth knowledge of grade separation issues for motor vehicles, pedestrians AND bicycles will be essential in getting to yes on a solution that will work for Palo Alto. His ability to think longer term, big picture on budget matters as well as keep track of key details and hold senior staff accountable for implementing council designated priorities will be a great tonic for what has ailed our city in the last few years. He's made great use of his "sabbatical" and brings the thoughtful, non-dogmatic approach to getting to yes on knotty problems that we really need.


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Posted by Aged Aquarius
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 3:09 am

Hard not to think of Pat Burt and Yuriko Kishimoto as the spiritual leaders of Palo Alto's hippy bicycle cult.

No matter how rational he may sound at times, lingering slightly below the surface is a monomaniacal obsession with bicycles. Every decision Pat made as a councilman and mayor was calculated to move Palo Alto one incremental step, no matter how small, closer to bicycle utopia.

I am afraid, that if it was within his power, Pat Burt would give the whole city to stack-n-pack real-estate developers in exchange for a couple of bike paths.

Talks a good game, but cannot be trusted not to relapse into obsessive "bicycle think" if reelected.


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Posted by Bicycle Mafia
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 12, 2020 at 3:43 am

Pat Burt is one of the ring leaders of the Bicycle Mafia.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 12, 2020 at 6:13 am

The more I read about Pat Burt, the more I support him. I'm so relieved Liz Kniss is termed out. She has not voted to protect community or youth programs or items on the agenda that would increase quality of life for Palo Alto residents, including families with young or growing children. The same can be said about Adrian Fine.

Really hope Pat Burt gets elected. Burt clearly has the depth of experience that Mayor Adrian Fine lacks. And the last curfew gaffe is something Mayor Adrian Fine still has not taken responsibility for but passed the buck onto City Manager Shakida, and claimed the umbrella excuse of "inexperience" as his shield. We don't need anymore interns working in City Council. We want wisdom and experience at the helm not inexperience and lack of responsibility.

Welcome former Mayor Pat Burt! Welcome to the race and we look forward to having this city run with some level of pragmatic, wise, experienced and measured manner. The lack of transparency in firing the city auditor while spending is out of control and now we are in deficit speaks to how things run under Mayor Adrian Fine and City Manager Ed Shakida at the helm.

From the 10 day curfew Shakida and Fine instituted, with Liz Kniss' full support in "feeling protected and safe" just speaks to how ridiculous the city is currently managed.

The inability to provide a nuanced budget but cutting deeply into Community programs, all done by Shakida and with Mayor Adiran Fine's approval and LIz Kniss' support. again speaks to how they are completely disconnected from the residents of Palo Alto.

Here is to hoping LIz Kniss doesn't return in 4 years. Her actions and votes speak for how she doesn't care 2 hoots for families, children or our youth. Same goes for Fine. This city desperately needs a change of leadership.. or in this case... actual leadership where there was one lacking.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 7:50 am

I think we are going to have to understand that the "perfect" residential supporting candidate is not going to come along. We will be stuck with those who are willing to run. I thank the individuals who are willing to put themselves in the public scrutiny for the next couple of months and show willing to be on our council.

However, when it comes to the various names we have to look at who is most likely to do what is necessary to keep Palo Alto's residents forefront. We need to update infrastructure and improve efficient traffic flow. We do not need to spend more money that we don't have on bicycle improvements that impede motorized vehicles. Saying that, Pat Burt is much more likely to be on the side of putting residents' needs first. If he runs with that type of platform he will do well.


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Posted by common sense
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 12, 2020 at 8:06 am

Has anyone noticed the California Fair Political Practices Commission never gave a ruling on Liz Kniss's alleged violation of the campaign finance laws in 2016?

If you recall, Kniss led the public to believe she wasn't taking money from property developers. Then after the last reporting period before the election, they deposited checks from developers. They claimed that they had not opened the envelopes until after the reporting due date.

I think in this election cycle we should all be aware of the tricks of a candidate either loaning themselves campaign funds, and delaying their campaign donations reporting to hide their donors until after the election.

Any candidate who "loans" their campaign money, may be hiding donors who make contributions after the election to pay off the loan.

The other trick that Kniss did was to not open donation envelopes until after the reporting due date. We need to be suspicious of campaigns that spend alot of money on advertising, campaign signs, etc.

I hope the local news media can be more vigilant about these practices for this election.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 12, 2020 at 9:01 am

Actually Kniss complaints are taking so long for Fppc to investigate because there were so many. Nine complaints in total some duplicates so seven unique complaints of violation


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Posted by DC Comics Suicide Squad
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 12, 2020 at 11:13 am

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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 12, 2020 at 11:43 am

Pat Burt, please clarify your position on govt spending for more bike paths and "traffic calming" "improvements". This is a deciding factor for many,


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Posted by Oh, for goodness sake...
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 11:48 am

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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 am

Posted by DC Comics Suicide Squad, a resident of Community Center

>> What sort of Council would this leave us? Can you really imagine the interactions between Dubois, Filseth, Kou, Eisenberg, Lauing, Burt and Cormack as being productive towards meeting the challenges of the next decade (2020-2030)?

One of the major challenges we have been facing is the massive number of people commuting to the office here. I don't know if that group will be able to do anything about it, but, I would take my chances over the office-space-approving Fine and Tanaka being in the mix. We need to start by stopping making it worse. Stop increasing the number of office jobs here.

Another challenge is pandemic vulnerability. Overcrowded offices have left us vulnerable to pandemics like COVID-19. We need to work towards improved workplace safety in Palo Alto, and that means corrected ventilation and workspace requirements. NOT increased crowding in higher-density offices.

Finally, we don't need more high-end anything here. Affordable office space for local service providers, affordable retail space, affordable restaurant space, affordable housing. Yes, I know we can't get everything at once, but, we can start by stopping making it worse.


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Posted by ALB
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 12, 2020 at 12:43 pm

The platform is Kou, Burt, Stone and Lauing who will bring decent values and experience to the council.


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Posted by Citizen PA
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 1:42 pm

"Has anyone noticed the California Fair Political Practices Commission never gave a ruling on Liz Kniss's alleged violation of the campaign finance laws in 2016?
If you recall, Kniss led the public to believe she wasn't taking money from property developers. Then after the last reporting period before the election, they deposited checks from developers. They claimed that they had not opened the envelopes until after the reporting due date."

The FPPC is fairly toothless, the community is responsible for taking action. FPPC did determined that Adrian Fine "misled" the public in that regard. The thing that bothers me is that they rendered a decision on Fine fairly quickly without considering the possibility that Fine, Kniss, and Wolbach may have colluded to all hide their developer donations. They falsely claimed their opponents were compromised by developer contributions while hiding them themselves.


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Posted by Pat Burt has my vote.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 2:37 pm

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Posted by Civic Minded
a resident of Gunn High School
on Jun 12, 2020 at 3:29 pm

Glad to see that Pat Burt is running for Council. He will have my vote and my donation to support his campaign.

I have been impressed with Pat Burt's service to Palo Alto from his early days on the Planning and Transportation Commission and continuing with his two terms on City Council. He dedicates the time and energy to learn about issues which result in informed decisions. He can and does dive deep into very technical issues like high speed rail, finance, traffic, public safety and land use to come up with solutions to complex issues. We need an experienced, dedicated civic mind on Council to lead our city through the budget and public safety challenges in our future. I vote for Burt.


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Posted by Aged Aquarius
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 3:50 pm

@ALB,

Karen Holman is the hidden hand behind Stone's brief political career. Not sure that is a good thing given Karen Holman's polarizing personality. Also, Stone made some unfortunate choices a couple of years ago that precipitated a career change that would make it impossible for him to be elected.

Not a good time for Stone to jump back into politics. He needs to take more time to rehabilitate his image before reentering politics.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2020 at 4:27 pm

Posted by Aged Aquarius, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood

>> Stone made some unfortunate choices a couple of years ago that precipitated a career change that would make it impossible for him to be elected.

You have a link pointing to what you are talking about?


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Posted by Bicycle Mafia
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 12, 2020 at 7:27 pm

As Donald Trump said; "Whether you love me, or hate me, you gotta vote for me!"

This pretty much sums up Pat Burt in the upcoming election.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 12, 2020 at 7:55 pm

On whose watch did we lose the Barnes & Noble book store downtown? It was always busy - had coffee and treats. That was the whole reason for going downtown - then everyone out for a stroll for lunch or dinner. So now everyone is in the B&N up in San Mateo County. Someone has no idea as to how you build business in a city. We need to eliminate people who ae working against the "total picture" for the city.


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Posted by Bad news
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jun 13, 2020 at 12:57 am

Hope he does not win. We have enough problems.


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Posted by Pseudo - growther
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 13, 2020 at 2:47 pm

He's better than some of the mega - growthers running but he still likes to build things. Not the candidate to keep us safe by slowing development and high rise buildings.

But still if it comes down to him vs. Fine or Tanaka or Templeton, he is the better choice. Not quite as extreme a shill for developers as the others.


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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 13, 2020 at 3:15 pm

I'm so tired of hearing car-light fairy tales when all they do is allow developers to pack in more and more people. I'm also horrified to keep reaching about all the affordable housing like The President Hotel and the rent-controlled apartment complexes being eliminated and replaced by pricey hotels and market-rate (ie unaffordable) complexes.

What are the YIMBY's doing to stop big tech from adding LITERALLY millions of square feet of office space? Yes, commuters are over-running us BECAUSE of the growth of offices. Look at the stance of YIMBY's like Adrian Fine when presented with the ballot initiative position to rein in office growth downtown that qualified for the ballot? He and his developer-friendly buddies got it side-lined about 2 years ago so it never came to a vote.

And they keep shifting the costs of this office growth to US in the form of paying the commuters' commuting expenses, parking permits etc. while staunchly opposing ANY type of business tax that might alienate their donors.

ENOUGH.


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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 13, 2020 at 3:17 pm

"I'm also horrified to keep reaching about all the affordable housing like"

Sorry. That should be READING, not reaching.


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Posted by Balance
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jun 13, 2020 at 5:44 pm

@ Psuedo- growther

My understanding is that Pat Burt supports less office growth and more housing, especially for low and moderate income residents. If that’s the case, it’s what my family and most of my neighbors think we need.


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Posted by Citizen PA
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:29 am

As a residents over developers voter, I actually prefer Tanaka to Burt. Tanaka seems to think about things from a fiscal stewardship standpoint and is not afraid of disagreeing with colleagues for well reasoned future-minded grounds. I need to know why I should trust Burt isn’t going to revert back to density advocate.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2020 at 11:16 am

Posted by Citizen PA, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood

>> As a residents over developers voter,

Who are your selections at this point? There are multiple slots open.


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Posted by Citizen PA
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2020 at 12:19 am

I am definitely voting for Lydia Kou. Beyond that, I am going to consider the field carefully and look at how the vote will finally create a council majority for residents. We really need ranked choice voting so people can use all their votes without essentially voting against their favorites. It will come down to the makeup of the field and number of seats. I hope we get good candidates and not a situation like last time in the school board in which Melissa Baten Castell got to extend her reign into eternity because there were so many spots and so few candidates. Given past elections, the results were a real referendum on how unpopular she had become despite winning. Again, it comes down to the field and number of seats.


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Posted by Finally, someone with ACTUAL experience
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 19, 2020 at 9:01 am

@CitizenPA
It’s worth looking at Tanaka’s record on supporting office development. He and Fine have been the strongest advocates on the council for unrestrained office growth.
He opposed the annual city office cap, he repealed the downtown office cap, opposed the citywide cap, and he and Fine tried to push through increasing the Comp Plan commercial development limit by an extra 50%.
Burt opposed each of these while he does support moderate housing growth. I’m OK with that approach.


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Posted by Stephen
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 19, 2020 at 9:05 am

Resident 1-Adobe Meadows: I think you got your bookstore chains confused. The bookstore located in the Varsity was Borders. It closed because the Borders chain went bankrupt and out of business. This had nothing to do with the city council. It is kind of sad that what is ostensibly a college town now has only 2 bookstores - thank you Bell's and Books Inc. for hanging in there!


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2020 at 11:38 am

Posted by Citizen PA, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood

>> As a residents over developers voter, I actually prefer Tanaka to Burt. Tanaka seems to think about things from a fiscal stewardship standpoint and is not afraid of disagreeing with colleagues for well reasoned future-minded grounds.

Tanaka talks a good line as far as budget spreadsheets go, but, I've never heard him "just say no" to more office space. I'm only voting for candidates who actually will stand up and vote to stop new office space projects. (Which, these days, always come wrapped in convenient fig leaf garlands to add deniability.)

And, let's have some office space anti-crowding standards, with space, ventilation, etc requirements to prevent the spread of viruses. Let people work from home or satellite offices close to home.


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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 19, 2020 at 12:16 pm

Maybe Mr. Burt -- and all the other candidates -- could comment on Mickie Winkler's Guest Opinion and Diana Diamond's blog. Both make important points and I'd really like substantive, specific responses.


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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 6, 2020 at 6:03 am

Inherent in social change would be electing candidates who have not served 16 years starting twenty of so years ago.
Move on.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 6, 2020 at 10:56 am

Posted by Mark Weiss, a resident of Downtown North

>> Inherent in social change would be electing candidates who have not served 16 years starting twenty of so years ago. Move on.

I'm going to vote for the best available candidates, regardless of whether or not they have been in public life a long term. Look at how Adrian Fine handled the curfew issue. One of many missteps. I get it that you don't like a Pat Burt candidacy. OK, so, who are you going to vote for and why?


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 7, 2020 at 9:51 am

T was under the impression that it was a Barnes and Noble. Nevertheless - I go up to RWC to the B&N located in Sequoia Station and do all of my shopping up there - Safeway, CVS, Sees Candies, etc. City planners need to realize that if someone is coming downtown then it needs to provide the obvious foot traffic that keeps people walking and coming back each week.


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Posted by Burt's record
a resident of Community Center
on Jul 20, 2020 at 3:26 pm

>Even if you don’t like every one of his decisions in the past he can think and can think past untruths and he is not corrupt <
Wrong! He has a business-man mentality and votes to enhance his personal interests. Like,

Why did he strongly support giving the Chamber of Commerce *Below Market Rate Office Space* in the oversized,under-parked development at Alma corner Lytton (335-355 Alma). I wonder if Judy Kleinberg, (CEO of the CC) will be supporting him.
Among other IMPORTANT votes:
* Voted in favor of real estate lawyer Greg Scharff to be Mayor
* Voted in favor of Michael Alcheck for Planning Commissioner.

These are all *crucial votes* with long term consequences.
Burt can't be trusted as he pretends to be pro-resident now but votes for business/developers when on Council.


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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 22, 2020 at 8:10 am

ABB, Anybody but Burt.
Pat is BRM in a BLM era.
Take a look at people who serve with Pat either on planning or counsel and do not endorse him and ask yourself why better yet ask them why.
I think it’s because he was abusive and disrespectful.. O his peers. Of his supposed constituents: never heard of us.
Let’s review the tape. I’ll donate $100 to Rotary for every time Pat cuts off Greg Schmid.


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