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Drive-by shooting sends police on search for gunman

Original post made on Jun 10, 2020

Detectives are looking for a man who fired multiple shots at an occupied car near U.S. Highway 101 in Palo Alto on Wednesday morning, according to police.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, June 10, 2020, 8:15 PM

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40 people like this
Posted by Fairmeadow
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 10, 2020 at 8:21 pm

Yeah, defund the police...


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2020 at 8:45 pm

Police are looking for ........ wearing a mask! Is this the first criminal description of a villain wearing a mask? It would be funny if it wasn't so serious!

We don't have a description of the mask either. Time was, only the bad guys wore a mask and took it off. Now everyone is wearing them so we have even less information.


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Posted by HN
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 10, 2020 at 9:52 pm

They should stop looking for the gunman. That way we can get used to what it is going to be like without police officers after they are defunded.


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Posted by Palo Verde
a resident of Palo Verde
on Jun 10, 2020 at 9:53 pm

For the past couple of weeks, Nextdoor has been post after post about fireworks or gunshots, people can't tell the difference. Some have said they call the police to report them.

What is it with fireworks this year? Normally for a week or so either side of July 4th, but this year they have been going on for weeks, starting in the early evening and going on until near midnight.


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 10, 2020 at 10:11 pm

This is terrible. Is it gang warfare? And criminals in other states, I read, are covering car license plates with paper to avoid identity. Maybe Highway Patrol should use drones to merely check vehicles on highways to see if they have license plates or paper!? I read once that there are more vehicles than people in CA, and if vehicles are often used in commission of crimes like this AND if this stunt of covering plates is done, we need police services to prevent it.


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Posted by john
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 10, 2020 at 11:21 pm

I'm eager for the volunteer squad of Palo Alto citizens (One of many "disband the police" ideas I've heard bandied about) to take this on and catch the bad guy. With firm words and righteous indignation only-of course.
Or perhaps they could just start small, with the burglars from Stockton that our cops caught today. I'd enjoy seeing that. I for one am grateful that our police handle those issues for me.


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Posted by grim reminder
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 10, 2020 at 11:36 pm

19 years since Maria Ann Hsiao. Web Link


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 7:07 am

If he is caught, perhaps a social worker should be sent and the local residents should bake him some cookies to show that they really care about him and want him to say he is sorry and that he won't do it again.


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Posted by Yo
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 11, 2020 at 9:24 am

Any no brainer can give up fundamental rights in exchange for security. Wise persons have both.


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Posted by Local PD Not Needed
a resident of another community
on Jun 11, 2020 at 10:07 am

> "Yeah, defund the police..."

^ Since the shooting incident occurred on 101, it is within the jurisdiction of the California Highway Patrol to PURSUE and APPREHEND the suspect(s).

Local PD not needed...in many instances too trigger happy, oftentimes racist and in search of another bullying opportunity.

Let the CHP do its work as their reputation is not as bad as many local PDs.

Besides as another poster noted...

> "Nextdoor has been post after post about fireworks or gunshots, people can't tell the difference. Some have said they call the police to report them."

^ The all too common 'shoot first, ask questions later' as practiced by many local PDs is not the answer...especially if/when the suspect is UNARMED.


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Posted by Nearby resident
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 11, 2020 at 10:42 am

This is an intersection in need of redesign. The double left turn lanes at the East bound Embacadero / East Bayshore intersection frequently provide opportunities for aggression as the traffic must merge into a single lane soon after the turn. That cars exiting northbound 101 must cross two lanes to get to the left turn lanes doesn’t help.


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Posted by DEFUND not END
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jun 11, 2020 at 10:52 am

Ok, for all of you mocking the issue regarding to defunding the police? Why do you question it? Has the police always protected you? Now, reflect why! If you're white... Ding ding ding ding ding! You probably have NEVER had to worry about the police. When we say defund, we mean, fund schools, fund hospitals-it makes NO SENSE to me that health care workers do not have proper PPE to save our lives, but cops have $600 gear to kill us? We could use that money to pay social workers to get proper care, support in mental health rehabilitation. Fund schools that teach the fundamentals of institutional racism, and pay teachers what they deserve. We can still have police that actually protect and serve, who are called upon when there is a crime and to properly handle criminals (people who do wrong, like white rapist men for example). Can you please understand that? What is so wrong with wanting more funds to go for community development? If you've never had to wonder about your education or your kids education, then that is privilege, and that is why we say DEFUND the police! And there should be nothing wrong with wanting equity.


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Posted by PA resident
a resident of Barron Park
on Jun 11, 2020 at 11:37 am

To all the snarky commenters thinking this is an example of the terror that awaits when police brutality is reigned in, why do you and so many others think the choice is either a police state or total anarchy? This is the tired, hollow excuse of all of those who oppose any reform of law enforcement. I'm pretty sure that eliminating police brutality and reining in a clearly out of control law enforcement community doesn't mean we have to have lawless anarchy. Why are people so foolish as to pretend there are only two choices? So ridiculous.


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Posted by Doug
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 11, 2020 at 12:06 pm

@local pd not needed: The article clearly states the intersection where the shooting took place, which is well within city limits. If you’re unable to comprehend the basic facts of the case what makes you think the rest of your opinions have any validity or are at all worthy of consideration?


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 12:47 pm

PAPD have issued another press release for a separate incident yesterday. As of lunch time, there is no mention as yet on PA Weekly.

What is happening in Palo Alto? Two incidents in one day?


7 people like this
Posted by Jus Sayin
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 12:54 pm

At one time, a few decades ago, East Palo Alto was the murder capitol of the U.S. with more murders per capita than any other city in the United States... until surrounding cities volunteered police services and individual police officers (Sheriffs, CHP,& local PD) volunteered their time to help the overwhelmed EPA-PD patrol the city.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 12:59 pm

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood

>> If he is caught, perhaps a social worker should be sent and the local residents should bake him some cookies to show that they really care about him and want him to say he is sorry and that he won't do it again.

So, let's see your evidence that "tough guy policing" works.Web Link


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Posted by Not Either Or
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2020 at 1:20 pm

Folks, it's not either/or - we can have effective policing at the same time as we can reform our policing to rid the PAPD of policies that undermine just enforcement and reinforce racisim. resulting in injustice.

Policies that result in a more diverse police force, more accountabilty from the bottom up and top down that supports good Officers continuing to be good and that gets rid of the bad ones. The Union needs to be a supporter not a barrier.
Aren't we all multi-taskers?


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Posted by OMG
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 11, 2020 at 2:35 pm

Oh my goodness! I hope the shooter and his gf is in a sanctuary city so that they're safely protected!


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Posted by Ray
a resident of Professorville
on Jun 11, 2020 at 4:50 pm

I have either been very lucky or very good but I have never had a bad exchange with a police officer.* As I understand it, the "defund" is to transfer funding to social services to do social services work (that the police are neither trained nor want to do) and to fund the police to do the work they are trained to do. I agree with Cory Booker that it need not and should not be a zero-sum situation. Palo Alto elected officials ought to be able to figure out how to do that.

*"lucky": When I was 17, I stopped at a red light in Lowell, Massachusetts. There was no one coming so I ran the light. There was a cop I didn't see. He stopped me, saw my license, gave me a lecture, and said he was giving me a break "because I was Irish." I make light of it, but I remember him and have NEVER run a light since (and I am a long way from 17). I mean NEVER. My point is, we need police who respond and adapt to the situation. If someone is breaking into your home at 3 a.m., you don't want to call a social worker to help the criminal to mend his ways. And you don't want to be terrified if a police officer stops you for a missing tail light. It need not be either/or; it should not be zero-sum.


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Posted by Practical View
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jun 11, 2020 at 10:29 pm

"They should stop looking for the gunman. That way we can get used to what it is going to be like without police officers after they are defunded."

Funding the cops didn't prevent this incident, did it? Seems like money wasted, don't you think?


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Posted by HN
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 12, 2020 at 8:34 am

@ Practical View "Funding the cops didn't prevent this incident, did it? Seems like money wasted, don't you think?"

Maybe you're new to this country, but cops can't prevent every crime that is about to take place. Part of their job is to also investigate crimes that have happened and bring the perpetrators to justice. This seems obvious to most, but I can see why there might be confusion.


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Posted by RC
a resident of Barron Park
on Jun 12, 2020 at 9:45 am

Zero cops “volunteered,” to help EPA combat violence back in the day. They were paid to do so, don’t act like it was done for free. Oh, and it was because EPA was underfunded and understaffed that they needed help.

PPE for healthcare workers, isn’t that the responsibility of organization they work for? If we have to write at my job, the company usually supplies pens and pencils.

Social workers respond to mental health Crisis calls with violently unstable people? You think they’re willing to do this without the protection of the police? Ha!

I’m just wondering where we as a society lost all common sense.


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Posted by Nayeli
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 12, 2020 at 11:01 am

"Defund the police" is an absurd clapback reaction to a tragic death caused by a bad cop. If anything, it should be "reform the policy" (that is, no violent apprehensions to suspects that aren't violent or an imminent danger).

Most police do a very good job under difficult circumstances. We shouldn't stereotype ANY group -- police or any racial-ethnic groups -- because of certain bad examples.


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Posted by Practical View
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jun 13, 2020 at 10:54 pm

"Maybe you're new to this country, but cops can't prevent every crime that is about to take place."

My immigration status aside, I'm not very good at making sense of non-sequiturs like the one above. But I will again point out the absurdity of the argument that spending more on police prevents crime--unless we are willing to spend enough to provide everybody with their own personal security detail, which I don't think we are, so ... .


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Posted by HN
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 13, 2020 at 11:22 pm

@Practical View: If there are more Hwy patrolmen, there will be less speeding and carpool lane violations. If there are more beat cops there will be less assaults on the streets. If people know they have a lower chance of getting away with a crime then they are less likely to do the crime. Of course you can't prevent all crimes no matter how much you spend, but you can lessen the chances. It's like saying we shouldn't spend money on medical screenings just because we can't prevent all diseases.


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