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Around Town: What's keeping the new Fire Station 3 behind schedule?

Original post made on Feb 1, 2020

In this week's Around Town column, news about lagging construction for Fire Station 3, the Stanford School of Medicine taking over Theranos' old offices and a late architect of Palo Alto parks telling his story in a new oral history.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Saturday, February 1, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Posted by Nick
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 1, 2020 at 2:58 pm

Never understood how Stanford can build many new buildings under budget and on time, but the city of PA can’t. Just two NEW buildings (Mitchell Park library & Station 3) in the last 30 YEARS and both have been way over budget and not even close to on time. What a mess!

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Posted by free enterprise
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 1, 2020 at 3:42 pm

Stanford is private money. Any idea how many NEW houses have been built in Palo Alto with private money in the past 30 years? Must be a thousand or more. ("NEW" meaning completely replaced, like the Mitchell Library or Fire Station 3.)

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Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 1, 2020 at 8:00 pm

It would just not be a City of Palo Alto project if there were not significant delays and cost-overruns, now would it.

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Posted by Nick
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 1, 2020 at 11:38 pm

To free enterprise: I’m talking about city buildings, not private residence.

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Posted by free enterprise
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 2, 2020 at 1:41 am

@Nick, I think they are competing for the same labor and the same materials and the same equipment and zoning and permitting agencies. Maybe the difference is the funding source attaching more urgency to getting it done. For the several new office buildings and hotels around here, TIME is MONEY. For the city, not so much. Does a new library or fire station generate income?

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Posted by commonsense
a resident of Professorville
on Feb 2, 2020 at 8:54 pm

900 K in Arcitectural Fees is absolutely ridiculous !
DO NOT give Shah Kawasaki another project. And why bill the contractor for delays that were most likely beyond and out of their control. When will the city learn they are not qualified to evaluate the restraints and challenges of commercial construction ?
Nick as far as Stanford is concerned the answer is Arrillaga...

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Posted by Green Gables
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Feb 4, 2020 at 11:10 am

In the State of California, government projects have to take the lowest bid for construction. That law is really stupid. There are project changes which up the costs of construction involved.

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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 4, 2020 at 11:21 am

In order to fix this, we need to understand the problem:

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Posted by senor blogger
a resident of Palo Verde
on Feb 4, 2020 at 3:41 pm

It is the Public Contract Code, A State Law, that causes all the delays and claims on public projects. Repeal the Code and the situation will change. The Code hamstrings the public agencies and the contractors take advantage of it

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Posted by He Must Go
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 6, 2020 at 5:51 pm

Do Not Believe that BS about competing for the same labor. How do so many other buildings get completed throughout our city. Here’s the common denominator George Hoyt the Building Official for our city. He was in charge of the Mitchell Park Library & this Fire Station. He is the worst manager of people that has been in that position just the shear turnover under him is scary all that money the city invests in it’s employee’s just to walk out the door after they have had enough of this micro manager who’s not focused on development but instead converting city staff to contract staff to “4 Leaf” who he worked for previously and guess who’s in control of that contract George Hoyt conflict of interest. You think.

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