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Palo Alto looks to business tax to fund shuttles, rail improvements

Original post made on Aug 21, 2019

As Palo Alto prepares to join the recent wave of cities that have adopted a business tax, transportation is emerging as the highest priority for how the revenues would be used.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Posted by resident
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 21, 2019 at 10:15 am

The big tech companies in town don't pay sales taxes to the county like retail businesses do, but they still create a tremendous burden on the city's transportation infrastructure. Makes senses to find other ways to get them to pay their fair share.


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Posted by Pro corporates show up
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Aug 21, 2019 at 12:12 pm

Advocates for a special tax, which requires a 2/3 majority vote, are trying to kill the measure.

Evidence? Adrian Fine, Judy Kleinberg (Chamber of Commerce) and Silicon Valley 'Leadership' want a special tax, instead of general tax for which a majority vote is needed.
The anti-resident, pro-corporate, group in action.


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 21, 2019 at 12:37 pm

You caught my eye with: Silicon Valley Leadership
Presumably meaning Silicon Valley Leadership Group.
If so, anything THEY want is to the extreme detriment of Palo Alto north S. Clara County residents/taxpayers. They represent San Jose, in particular BIG business interests. We little people are to pay for “everything” - highway lanes we already paid for, etc. Watch out.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 21, 2019 at 12:50 pm

"Employee count" is the most logical, but, what is the head count really? If someone works from home, does that count? How about if they come in for 8-10 hours per week for meetings? What do neighboring cities do about this?

Taxing area is a bad idea-- it gives an incentive to employers to squeeze even more people in per square foot. I can't believe some of the tiny workspaces I have seen the last few years. And, area is already taxed via property taxes, which should pay for police/fire.


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Posted by Annette
a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 21, 2019 at 1:22 pm

Annette is a registered user.

If the tax isn't specific and it passes there's no requirement that the City spend the revenue as promised during the campaign. Talk's cheap; we could well find ourselves a few years down the road being told that ANOTHER tax is needed to fund what this tax was supposed to fund. I hope that's not acceptable to anyone.

Will we know before the ballot measure has to be submitted what portion, if any, of the $700M Measure B funds Palo Alto will get? If not, will we know before the election? Is the timing of this going to be political?

Our leaders think we should get half of the $700M b/c we have 4 grade crossings to separate. Is that even realistic? Or is it more likely the funds will be allocated on a "shovel ready" basis? If that happens, Sunnyvale and Mountain View stand to receive more than Palo Alto b/c they are further down the track vis-a-vis planning. We of course are still talking. I see this as a leadership issue. Our former City Manager should have made this a priority. He did not and it appears the chickens may now come home to roost.


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Posted by BusinessOwner
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 21, 2019 at 1:33 pm

I'm a business owner on University. This city forgets that it is because of the businesses here, that their properties have such high values.

Last year the city had a 33m surplus. The city just agreed to spend $900k for THREE pieces of art in the Police building.

Yet you want to tax businesses? Is it not hard enough to run a business here? Retail has and continues to suffer because Stanford Shopping Mall is 5 minutes from downtown and has a significantly better shopping experience.


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Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 21, 2019 at 1:46 pm

>> "Commercial properties fill less than 10% of Palo Alto parcels but generate 30% of property tax revenues." Wait, what?


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Posted by @BusinessOwner
a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 21, 2019 at 2:13 pm

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IMO the property values are much too high. I vote to tax non-residential businesses and more generally discourage office space. Stanford Shopping Center has no useful toy store, hardware store, music store, sporting goods store, etc. At least last time I went there (a year ago?) How much high-end fashion can a person buy?


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Posted by Novelera
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 21, 2019 at 2:37 pm

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@Business Owner: If you operated your business in Mountain View, Sunnyvale, San Jose, Menlo Park, San Carlos, Belmont, Burlingame, Portola Valley, Los Altos, Hillsborough or Atherton, you would already be paying a business license and/or business tax.

You've been getting a free ride of the backs of Palo Alto residents.


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Posted by What If
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 21, 2019 at 5:47 pm

What If is a registered user.

The city used a business license tax to help pay down the pension liabilty?


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 21, 2019 at 7:42 pm

Transportation improvements better not be designed completely around making life a living hell for anyone who partakes in the sin of driving their car alone.
Watch them blow the money or more bollards, road furniture and unused bike lanes.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 22, 2019 at 9:45 am

"transportation improvements" nowadays means "punishing single occupant vehicles". This article perfectly summarizes the situation:

Web Link


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Posted by Nayeli
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 22, 2019 at 10:15 am

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Is this why the city was trying to create a "business registry?" They were simply trying to see where else they could grab money in order to fill their coffers?

It seems like the tied-and-tested tax and spend scheme never sleeps. Seek a new tax to fund [fill-in-the-blank] after using focus groups and robocall surveys to see where residents would support it.

This time, the lot fell to "transportation priorities."

By the way, I'm always puzzled by the push by local fork-tongued politicians to get Palo Alto to adopt policies and tax initiatives similar to other cities. I am not sure that Palo Alto needs to be like other cities. One of the great things about Palo Alto is that it is NOT like other cities.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 22, 2019 at 11:19 am

Posted by What If, a resident of Midtown

>> The city used a business license tax to help pay down the pension liabilty?

I like this proposal. I'm all in favor of Caltrain improvements, but, I would prefer if the general fund were used for that. Let's earmark a business tax specifically to pay down the unfunded benefits liabilities, and, find a way to make sure that all the forward-funded benefit money can't get redirected or spent or borrowed against somehow.


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Posted by Max
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 22, 2019 at 7:15 pm


In Party newspeak "transportation improvements" means social engineering people out of the only efficient transportation technology we have and forcing us onto inefficient state run transportation.


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Posted by Ben
a resident of Community Center
on Aug 22, 2019 at 8:12 pm

When the Silicon Valley Leadership Group gets involved, rest assured that the solution will always be along the lines of a sales tax and under no circumstances any sort of tax or fee paid by any business, especially some of the weathiest businesses in the world. Claiming that a business tax will be bad for Palo Alto is nonsense. A business tax will at a minimum bring Palo Alto in line with just about all other local cities, and extract compensation from the root cause of the congestion on the peninsula. To mitigate the real possibility of a negative impact on local small businesses, perhaps impose a reduced business tax, or simply not tax street level retail.


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Aug 22, 2019 at 8:38 pm

@BusinessOwner
Stanford Shopping Center has lots of high end fashion, faddish stores because it caters to upscale visitors to Stanford, including international.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Aug 23, 2019 at 10:43 am

Resident 1-Adobe Meadows is a registered user.

Remember when BART was suppose to circle the bay? We voted on a tax to pay for that and you do not see a BART connecting San Mateo County down to San Jose. If we had put in the BART along Foothill Expressway we would then have a solid connection for the west side of the peninsula in RWC, PA, west side of SU / VA Hospital, Los Altos, Cupertino (Apple), and then connection to San Jose. Sorry that did not happen and sorrier that large influential groups who could have made it happen shifted their priorities. So they are now all cheerleading to do what? We are still paying the BART tax so that the east bay and San Jose are connected. We are not an ATM card for funds that go every where except what we voted on them to go.


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