Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, November 30, 2018, 1:00 PM
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Los Altos planning commissioner arrested for Tesla DUI
Original post made on Nov 30, 2018
Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, November 30, 2018, 1:00 PM
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a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 30, 2018 at 1:29 pm
Here's a link to the CHP radio traffic of the incident:
Web Link
Thank goodness nobody was hurt.
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 30, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Thank you to the brave officers for ending this situation without any innocent bystanders being killed. I think Mr. Samek needs to take a leave of absence from all of his work and get his act together before someone is hurt.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Nov 30, 2018 at 3:33 pm
Something is fishy with this story. In order to avoid this exact situation, the Tesla AutoPilot requires driver interaction every 30 seconds or so and will completely shut down and pull over to the side of the road within 2 minutes if no interaction is detected. I'm curious how this story will turn out but I don't believe either the Police or Palo Alto Online understand how Tesla autopilot works.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Nov 30, 2018 at 4:19 pm
That’s our gas station!
Thankful the police stopped this dangerous driver in his massive, heavy vehicle.
Alleged DUI is the least of it - he’s totally irresponsible and a danger to all of the rest of us on the road.
We need to enact a huge penalty for this irresponsibility NOW.
Yeah, yeah, we were all lectured and assured how great these vehicles are - now see the result.
Action NOW before others get killed by “drivers” like him.
a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 30, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Unfortunately, the Tesla Auto Pilot can be easily defeated (Youtube)
Curious, what would have happened if the car was just going the speed limit?
Isn't the Autonomous mode aware of the speed limit? I don't know, but good thing they caught him before he killed a family.
a resident of Palo Verde
on Nov 30, 2018 at 4:41 pm
BobH is a registered user.
I am glad they caught him and got the driver off of the road.
I suspect it was probably safer to have the car in self steering mode than had he been driving it himself given he failed a field sobriety test and his inability to stay awake.
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 30, 2018 at 5:49 pm
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 30, 2018 at 6:22 pm
The Planning Commission advises the City Council on planning and transportation issues. Transportation issues include automobile circulation, pedestrian, bicycle and handicapped access, and public transportation on all public streets, roadways and paths within Los Altos city limits
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 30, 2018 at 11:15 pm
Mark Weiss is a registered user.
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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2018 at 7:17 am
Posted by TeslaOwner, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
>> Something is fishy with this story. In order to avoid this exact situation, the Tesla AutoPilot requires driver interaction every 30 seconds or so and will completely shut down and pull over to the side of the road within 2 minutes if no interaction is detected. I'm curious how this story will turn out but I don't believe either the Police or Palo Alto Online understand how Tesla autopilot works.
Good point. I'm looking forward to Tesla's AutoPilot and Software Safety group leaders (or whatever title Tesla uses) explaining exactly what occurred in this case. On the record, in open court.
a resident of Palo Verde
on Dec 1, 2018 at 7:55 am
JR McDugan is a registered user.
This is even more reckless when you consider that a Tesla killed its driver by plowing into the 101 / 85 interchange just a short few months ago, which is no more than a few miles from where the driver was pulled over. If the CHP had not pulled this person over where they did, it's very possible this could have been a repeat scenario.
a resident of another community
on Dec 1, 2018 at 8:45 am
Baffling how this clown appears to be really wealthy, yet, cannot simply order an Uber to take him home? I'd kick him off the Planning Commission if I were on the LA City Council. Does a life need to be lost in order to take immediate action? Don't wait for the next time please, financial status should not be a preclusion from any consequences to this downright dangerous, stupid and illegal activity.
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Dec 1, 2018 at 11:58 am
Online Name is a registered user.
This is SO Sillycone Valley :-> Maybe we need a self-driving derby between the Teska's, Waymo's, etc,
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 1, 2018 at 2:40 pm
No actual reference to the DUI (i.e. alcohol/blood %, field sobriety test results etc.) nor any indication whether this 'suspicion' of DUI was attributable to prescription and/or recreational drugs.
A reckless driving violation is better than a DUI citation. If the suspect simply fell asleep at the wheel, things will go better for him compared to an alcohol or drug related stop.
Fortunately he was driving a Tesla. Good cars.
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 1, 2018 at 4:59 pm
Mark Weiss is a registered user.
My deleted post was to say that the subject hopefully would learn from this incident and change his life.
a resident of another community
on Dec 1, 2018 at 5:46 pm
Driver Could Get Off On DUI said the following:
"No actual reference to the DUI (i.e. alcohol/blood %, field sobriety test results etc.) nor any indication whether this 'suspicion' of DUI was attributable to prescription and/or recreational drugs."
Try reading the article next time, please, and not just the title. In the article it clearly states that the subject was given and subsequently failed a field sobriety test.
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Dec 2, 2018 at 9:27 am
S Brady is a registered user.
How is such a careless person, so deeply involved with hotel development, big development in general, doing on the Los Altos Planning Commission?
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Dec 2, 2018 at 11:04 am
S Brady is a registered user.
MrCurious,
I do not see anywhere in this article that this man is getting off easy because of his financial status. He was arrested. Where are you reading that he is not going to have serious consequences? Please redirect me to that story,
Frankly, I think one DUI should result in permanent loss of driving privledges. The fact that any convicted DUI person can eventually get back behind the wheel in this state is not harsh enough. I might add that public shaming works for me too.
Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently motivated fool.
a resident of Mountain View
on Dec 2, 2018 at 2:05 pm
> No actual reference to the DUI (i.e. alcohol/blood %, field sobriety test results etc.) nor any indication whether this 'suspicion' of DUI was attributable to prescription and/or recreational drugs.
> In the article it clearly states that the subject was given and subsequently failed a field sobriety test.
@ Driver Could Get Off On DUI & @Jackie
I specialize in challenging DUIs in court. Failing a field sobriety test is not conclusive evidence that a driver is DUI. Stumbling on an uneven side road service, shivering due to the cold, being cross-eyed and other variables can negate this test.
Only a blood test (where blood is actually drawn) is conclusive evidence and a suspect has the right to refuse one. Even a breathalizer reading can be challenged due to calibration discrepancies.
As a private DUI attorney, I have gotten many DUI suspects off the hook due to inconclusive evidence.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 3, 2018 at 7:37 am
Posted by Driver Could Get Off On DUI, a resident of Adobe-Meadow
>>If the suspect simply fell asleep at the wheel, things will go better for him compared to an alcohol or drug related stop.
>> Fortunately he was driving a Tesla. Good cars.
I think you are drawing the wrong conclusion from your supposition. If the driver had fallen asleep at the wheel and killed or harmed himself or others, who would take comfort in the fact that "well, at least the driver wasn't drunk"?
Many people die every year when people "simply fell asleep at the wheel". Yes, it is simple to fall asleep at the wheel. Recent research indicates that a much larger fraction of crashes involve sleepy driving than was previously understood: Web Link
BTW, while Teslas may be "good cars", what is curious about the Tesla angle in this case is that the inattentive driver feature was not triggered.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 3, 2018 at 8:20 am
>...what is curious about the Tesla angle in this case is that the inattentive driver feature was not triggered.
So what's worse...having to deal with a Waymo or a Tesla while you are on the road driving?
Both have this feature and both have their flaws.
Perhaps it's best to eliminate all two of them.
a resident of Duveneck School
on Dec 3, 2018 at 10:29 am
I've timed the length of time between "hands off the wheel" and "alarms go off" as about 55 seconds on the Model S. At 70 mph, that's a mile driven at a speeds that could easily kill a family. While I believe autopilot is probably net-positive from a safety perspective, the fact that CHP has had to come up with counter-Tesla-DUI tactics is saddening
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:02 pm
The fact that this person works in public service sector, in the PLANNING COMMISSION division... but couldn't even PLAN the most ethical and moral course of action to prevent driving while asleep at the wheel speaks volumes. IRONIC really.
Regardless of why he was asleep at the wheel... the CHP likely did him a favor. If one is asleep at the wheel due to a health care issue, then he would completely lose his license and his right to drive from that moment forward. The fact that he was given ONLY a field sobriety test, no blood work, no breathalyzer test and he can easily challenge it as questionable.. and get off means this clown gets to continue to drive indefinitely with no real consequences whatsoever.
This man who is serving the public could have killed children, families or pedestrians or cyclists or pets.... should lose his job immediately. He has proven he doesn't deserve public trust in his ability to make sound decisions or judgements.
Driving a TESLA which has a net positive factor... doesn't mitigate the flagrantly offensive act that he got behind a wheel of a car, started it and instructed it where to drive him before falling SOUND ASLEEP at the wheel. Didn't know his car slowed down. Didn't know police were trying to pull him over. Didn't know sirens were blazing. Didn't know or hear the loudspeaker. Think on that for a moment.
This man lacks ethics and sound judgement at best..... and at worst.. he could have taken a life.
His should lose his job and license ... end of story.
a resident of Palo Verde
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:14 pm
BobH is a registered user.
I read the headline again "Los Altos planning commission chair arrested for Tesla DUI"
I note the Tesla was not driving "DUI". It was the Mr Samek who was driving DUI. Would have been nice if Palo Alto online headline has been more accurate. The car was responsible for his behavior.
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:19 pm
Attached may provide more clarification to some of the above comments:
Web Link
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:19 pm
The NYT article about Samek says he was pulled over at 3:30 pm on Friday.
At 3:30 pm children are walking home from school, or going to after school activities on their bikes, scooters, and own 2 feet.
At 3:30 pm Friday, small children and preschool kids are on the sidewalks or in their strollers.
Pedestrians are out walking their dogs. Children are outside. At 3:30 pm... no one should be so sound asleep behind the wheel of a Tesla.... it continues to drive another 7 miles with police sirens blazing with multiple police cars surrounding the Tesla to make it stop. Policemen should not be "pounding on the windows" to rouse him awake.
He could have easily killed someone... someone's child. Someone's daughter. Someone's son. Someone's parent. A mother. A father. A family. Grandparents.
HE should definitely lose his license for a long time to come. This is not a teen with not a fully developed ability to think through the consequences. This is a fully adult... sitting on a city planning commission. Operating real estate enterprises. Founding companies. And he had the audacity to smile during his police mug shot photo.
Take a look at the NYT article.
Web Link
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:25 pm
Samek is so entitled and so completely oblivious of the potential dire consequences of his actions... the NYT article states Samek was "chuckling" as he was being questioned by the police in the interrogation videos.
That scenario should percolate through our thoughts a moment. This man who fell asleep at his wheel and was pulled over at 3:30 pm on Friday... thought the situation was amusing such that he was chuckling as he was being interrogated.
He could have hit a school bus full of children. He could have hit an after school Club J JCC bus that picks up children from various elementary schools.
Talk about complete entitled behavior with no worries about his actions or his consequences. Makes you wonder how many times he has done this. How many times he has luckily not killed someone in the process.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:28 pm
(@PA Resident, it was 3:30 AM.)
Interesting article on the AAA Website describing actual testing of 4 autopilot systems, including the Tesla Model S:
Web Link
An excerpt:
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While driving on public roadways, AAA found test vehicles struggled when encountering scenarios that included moderate traffic, curved roadways and streets with busy intersections. Researchers noted many instances where the test vehicle experienced issues like lane departures, hugging lane markers, “ping-ponging” within the lane, inadequate braking, unexpected speed changes and inappropriate following distances. AAA’s study also revealed that nearly 90 percent of events requiring driver intervention were due to the test vehicle’s inability to maintain lane position. The irregular and complex nature of the real-world driving environment revealed the vulnerabilities of this technology. AAA’s testing found the systems generally performed best on open freeways and freeways with stop and go traffic.
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm
ok. 3:30 am. Well then. That clearly absolves him of sleeping soundly behind a Tesla. Complete exoneration your honor... because he had the judgement to drive go completely into deep REM sleep at 3:30 am not pm.
And he had the sound judgement to fall asleep on the highway.. not the regular roads. I'm sure he set his alarm to wake him up from his deep REM sleep as soon as his Tesla exited off the highway nearest his destination...
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 3, 2018 at 1:51 pm
> He could have hit a school bus full of children. He could have hit an after school Club J JCC bus that picks up children from various elementary schools.
> (@PA Resident, it was 3:30 AM.)
A school bus full of children traveling at 3:30 AM would be something out of the Twilight Zone.
>>The fact that he was given ONLY a field sobriety test, no blood work, no breathalyzer test and he can easily challenge it as questionable.. and get off means this clown gets to continue to drive indefinitely with no real consequences whatsoever.
That could very well happen as per the DUI Attorney's earlier post.
a resident of Palo Verde
on Dec 3, 2018 at 5:20 pm
@Resident of Downtown North, the New York Post is no New York Times.
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