[Post removed; JJ&F family is not involved in this store.]

Unless neighbors make this their go to market, it will most likely fail. The footprint is too small, there is too much competition close by, hardly any parking, and stopping in for a carton of milk or loaf of bread won't cut it. Yet, they'll cry about not having the market that was promised. Put you money where your mouths are.

I wish the Khoury family good luck. They'll need it. The market at Edgewood Plaza is faced with the same fate. Every time I go in there, the place is nearly empty.

It makes sense to call the grocery Khoury's Market; I also think Papa Joe's would have been a fun and fitting name!

@ marie...the Garcia family of JJ&F is not involved in running this store. They allowed the Khoury family to use the name temporarily to get them up and running previously.

Does anyone know when the Khoury family plans to open the market? I'm anxious to shop there again.

“Its so great and weird to have the JJ&F family once again run a grocery store on the the property they used to occupy only under a different name now.”

This is not being run by the JJ&F family, who are the Garcia’s. It was named after the brothers (Joe, John, and Frank). This is the Khourys, another family who used that name while runnng he store awhile ago.

Read carefully!!

I wish the Khourys well in this new venture. I remember when they took over after JJ & F a few years ago. The store was dirty (floors filthy) and shelves were empty or sparsely stocked pretty much all the time. It was never fun shopping there like it was during the JJ & F days. We would ask for certain items to be stocked, like Acme bread, and while they said they would do it, they never did. We all know this is a tough location, especially since Trader Joe’s opened. The JJ & F guys told me they lost 300+ sales a day the first day TJ‘s went into operation. I would love the Khourys to be wildly successful, but they’re going to have to really step up their game to be so.

Aside from providing College Terrace and Stanford with closer shopping choices, please Khoury's accept Electronic Benefit Transfer or food stamps and WIC (women infants and children). Many grad students raising families and enrolled at Stanford are using EBT to help offset the astronomical housing prices here. Also the low-come apartments behind the grocery store and ups the street on the same side of this space will be able to shop there to feed their children.

The developers doomed the store by orienting it north towards El Camino. The old JJ&F had a very different feel spilling out onto College ave to serve College Terrace. I just dont understand why they had to put office space where JJ&F used to be.

>...please Khoury's accept Electronic Benefit Transfer or food stamps...

Yes. We reside in an RV parked along ECR and being able to shop at Khoury's with our food stamp/EBT card would be very convenient.

Some of the more upscale grocery stores like Draegers do not accept them. Their loss.

RV Dweller,
you would actually want to use your food stamps in Draegers and pay their high prices? That way you would be able to buy much less stuff, no? Why not go somewhere normal, cheaper, and get more stuff for your stamp money?

> We reside in an RV parked along ECR and being able to shop at Khoury's with our food stamp/EBT card would be very convenient. Some of the more upscale grocery stores like Draegers do not accept them.

>>you would actually want to use your food stamps in Draegers and pay their high prices? That way you would be able to buy much less stuff, no? Why not go somewhere normal, cheaper, and get more stuff for your stamp money?


This is Palo Alto where everyone is upscale.

@ Welcome to Palo Alto - "This is Palo Alto where everyone is upscale."

...except for Grocery Outlet Bargain Market on Alma. That place is a bargain shopper's dream! Although their selection differs constantly, they always have staple items (e.g., milk, eggs, rice, meats, cheese, etc.) along with some very surprisingly high-quality finds.

I'd also add the fact that Trader Joe's prices are very good for Palo Alto too. I am beginning to wonder if either a Grocery Outlet or Trader Joe's might be the best option for this odd location.

I'll wish the Khoury family all the best. I hope that they can make a grocery story there that is worthwhile to the owners and residents alike.

Grocery Outlet Bargain Market is fun -- you never know what treasure you will find! It's like Marshalls, but with more food :)

> ...except for Grocery Outlet Bargain Market on Alma.

Agreed...when it comes to getting more bang for the buck, Draegers or the new Khoury's may not be a sound choice for grocery shopping.

The problem is that some of these transient RV dwellers would have to sacrifice their prime real estate holdings (aka parking spaces) in order to get there if the RV was operational and their sole means of transportation.

When I went to Grocery Outlet I noticed food that was almost expired,
mostly processed, and a terrible produce selection.

Khoury's will not be like the previous Miki's market.
My guess it will have choices for all pocketbooks and not super high-end.

I personally do not want a cheap market there with over-packaged food.
That's not healthy for anyone including RV dwellers.

Maybe some of those RV's can move closer to the Grocery Outlet
and away from El Camino?

> When I went to Grocery Outlet I noticed food that was almost expired, mostly processed, and a terrible produce selection.

>>That's not healthy for anyone including RV dwellers. Maybe some of those RV's can move closer to the Grocery Outlet and away from El Camino?


Uh. Did you not contradict yourself here?

@ eileen - We have shopped at Grocery Outlet often. It certainly isn't Whole Foods or Sprouts. However, it offers quite a bit of choice. They often have organic and "upscale" items.

In fact, I believe that there is an entire section dedicated to organic or "wholesome" items (the northwest wall between the yogurt and bread) and an adjacent aisle opposite water and drinks.

In addition, like "I agree with above" stated, it is almost like a treasure hunt for groceries. Sometimes, you can get amazing deals for very good items. Those items change often.

I've never actually bought anything that was expired. Obviously, there is a shelf-life or expiration date for most things. However, I've noticed that the "cage-free, organic eggs" have a slightly longer date than what I've bought at Safeway.

I never thought that any grocery store would do well in that location. I thought that the best-case scenario would be yet another Trader Joe's opening there. I was wrong. Grocery Outlet is a welcome option that seems to be doing very well.