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Shop Talk: New Target store; Maum opens

Original post made on Jul 7, 2017

In this week's retail news, Target is set to unlock the doors to its first store in East Palo Alto, a new Korean restaurant quietly opens in downtown Palo Alto and an on-demand laundry startup is now in business.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, July 7, 2017, 8:33 AM

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Posted by CXX
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 7, 2017 at 12:24 pm

I don't want to ruin anyone's party here, but I do believe that the retail strip on University (and the general "downtown") needs to be open to the "public." How ever they go about might be the tricky thing, but it cannot be a "private" space. That is something a lawyer should start taking a look at. And the City should have figured out whether to grant is a permit or not.


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Posted by CXX
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 7, 2017 at 12:26 pm

I don't want to ruin anyone's party here, but I do believe that the retail strip on University (and the general "downtown") needs to be open to the "public." How ever they go about this might be the tricky thing, but it cannot be a "private" space. That is something a lawyer should start taking a look at. And the City should have figured out whether to grant is a permit or not based on their declared 'use' of the space.


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Posted by jim
a resident of Community Center
on Jul 7, 2017 at 12:51 pm

I agree that University Ave is a very limited resource and we would benefit more from public venues. The 1% can get what ever they want.
I'm not sure why this type of business would want to pay the rent for University Ave for a restaurant that will not be open to the public. But I guess the high enderswill pay the rent.


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Posted by Mama
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 7, 2017 at 12:51 pm

I agree re Maum. Ground floor retail means retail, open to the public.
Hooray for our new Target store!


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Posted by margaret heath
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 7, 2017 at 1:19 pm

My first thought also. Has the Planning Department issued a permit for an unauthorized use? During various discussions about commercial uses on University the council have been clear that these businesses must be open to the public. Or has the Planning Department issued a permit for a private club because anyone can be granted membership? Rather like paying to attending a yoga studio class.

Also, I thought that first floor interiors on designated retail streets must be visible through the window. This came up when the council discussed which streets around the Cal Ave retail core should be included, and whether the businesses on Cambridge Avenue were allowed to have tinted windows because it makes a retail street so uninviting for pedestrians. Of course, by the time the council got around to discussing protecting Cambridge retail it had already been gutted by what look like tech offices with opaque windows. All that was left beside the grocery market, PO and pharmacy near the train tracks were a few beauty salons, a barber, and a tea shop at the other end. It had clearly been a long time since any of them had taken a look at Cambridge. It's called shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Of course, the developers of the new building on California Avenue, where the French Laundry people plan to open a restaurant, were discovered to have exceeded their building permit by 800 square feet so the Planning Department invented a new code especially for their building after the fact. Are developers taking notice that next time they can do the same thing now that the precedent has been set? Wonder if I can exceed my allowed lot coverage square footage and then ask the Planning Department to make a special code exception after the fact for me also?


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Posted by Marlene Dietrich
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2017 at 2:40 pm

Marlene Dietrich is a registered user.

What? If that "Restaurant " will not be open to the public on University ave, then it should be re-addressed !! What about on the top of Portola Valley mountains ? Or in the middle of Atherton ? Also it can be on an island !!
Most people here in Bay Area are not rich but doesn't mean that we can not save our money for to go to a nice restaurant on a B-day or anniversary!
Private "Restaurants " on public streets are some kind of discrimination too !!


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Posted by Marlene Dietrich
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2017 at 2:48 pm

Marlene Dietrich is a registered user.

Target store is very welcome to East Palo Alto ! Finally EPA is getting better...!
We just need a Pier, a Mall and movie theater for to be completely happy !! :)


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Posted by Chris
a resident of University South
on Jul 7, 2017 at 4:17 pm

Can Elena translate what the issue is about Maui?

How is it different than the restaurant at California and Park?


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Posted by Cal Ave/Park
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jul 7, 2017 at 4:23 pm

Baume is indeed expensive; but it is open to the public for dinner only by appointment only.

Maim is for Korean diners who are very wealthy only!


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Posted by Marlene Dietrich
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2017 at 4:39 pm

Marlene Dietrich is a registered user.

I think Maum restaurant serves exotic food that just very eccentric rich people can enjoy. Since is a Korean restaurant I can imagine how exotic it can be...! I just made a research on Youtube about Korean gourmet and believe me, is not just caviar... they can cook everything! ....no thanks! It is just me or this restaurant's name sound like "Meow" ? By the way, there are a lot of great restaurants around of Bay Area too ! Let's name it here ! ;)


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Posted by peta
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 18, 2017 at 10:53 am

Ms. Dietrich above states, "I can imagine how exotic it can be...Korean gourmet and believe me, is not just caviar... they can cook everything! ....no thanks!...It is just me or this restaurant's name sound like "Meow"?"

Yes, Ms. Dietrich - I think it's just you - Your comments are a thinly veiled racist innuendo about eating pet animals. "Maum" sounds nothing like "Meow". Or did you mean "BowWow"?

I believe the PA Online Town Square should remove Ms. Dietrich's offensive comments.


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Posted by Marlene Dietrich
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 18, 2017 at 11:25 am

My apologies to Peta if in any way she felt offered for what I wrote. Is known for everybody that some cultures in Asia, Latinoamerica and some Island have a very extended variety in food that is not usual on other countries. With just a little research on internet we can get this knowledge. My son loves frog's legs and is the first thing he choice in Chinese restaurants and I just can't eating them thinking in a little poor frog watching me with his big eyes !! No, thanks!
Eating wherever people want is a choice and I'm sure that if and apocalypse of zombies happen in USA, I will die for a zombie bite rather then eat worms or snakes to survive...! :(


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Posted by peta
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 22, 2017 at 9:28 am

Ms. Dietrich - Your apologies might be better accepted by many Americans of Asian descent if you hadn't added "Is it just me or this restaurant's name sound like 'Meow'". That steps over the line into pet animal territory and promotes Anti-Asian xenophobic sentiments from some. You could have made your original point without that statement. In fact, there are plenty of Korean restaurants in the Bay Area that only serve food acceptable to American tastes, so it begs the question of why you would single out Maum - it's not even in your city. It's so easy to make comments like that - whether intentionally or not - that promote racial divisiveness like in 1930s Germany - we all surely do not want to go back there. Let's promote world unity instead, especially during these times of change in America.


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Posted by Marlene Dietrich
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 22, 2017 at 10:50 am


OMG Ms Peta ! Sadly I can see that my apologies didn't work with you ("People who can't forgive... " This is some kind of hate too !) I think if what I will tell you do not works then I will invite you to dinner at my house.
My recently ADN results shows a big diversity and trust me, part of me is Korean too, so, that's means that it is impossible for me to be xenophobic.

I love diversity and I can see beauty in all cultures!

Sometimes I am a little sarcastic or trying to be funny but never xenophobic. Where is the sense of humor ?

I'll invite everybody to do the ADN test, there are a lot of surprising information in your origins !!

Have a great weekend everybody! :)


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Posted by peta
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 28, 2017 at 11:14 am

Ms Die - You still haven't owned up to your insinuating remark of eating pets, and want to cast yourself as a humorous, light-hearted person who was just joking. Well those types of jokes are NOT funny to those offended - and I challenge you to find any of your Asian friends that think that was funny. I don't hate you - I just find people like you need to be called out on your unconscious remarks that show little respect for others. Just don't do this sort of thing any more and we can call it a day.

As for your ADN results, if you do have Korean blood - your remark of "THEY eat everything" certainly doesn't reflect it. I challenge you to publish the results here.


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Posted by Zimmer
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 29, 2017 at 1:45 pm

"Yes, Ms. Dietrich - I think it's just you - Your comments are a thinly veiled racist innuendo about eating pet animals. "Maum" sounds nothing like "Meow". Or did you mean "BowWow"?"

What do you expect? Despite Palo Alto's veneer of tolerance and civilization, it is quite the racist town. Anti-Asian bigotry regularly rears its ugly head on Town Square. That it is tolerated here only encourages more of the same. Given that this is a heavily censored forum, that leads me to believe such comments reflect the views of the management.

"It's so easy to make comments like that - whether intentionally or not - that promote racial divisiveness like in 1930s Germany - we all surely do not want to go back there."

Oh, I think it is quite intentional and the comparison apt. There really are people who want to go back there, just with a different ethnic group being the target.


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