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"In Brock Turner's home town, we're raising kids who are never told "no," Washington Post

Original post made by Not A Stanford Alum, Mountain View, on Jun 11, 2016

Worth reading.

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Posted by thank you
a resident of Barron Park
on Jun 11, 2016 at 5:53 pm

Thank you for the link to that well-written, insightful commentary. In many ways, his community resembles that of Palo Alto.


Posted by Another PA
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2016 at 6:13 pm

Wow, thus article nailed it. Brock Turner is one of those entitled kids who was never told,"NO!" . He never had limits set because he was "so special" and high achieving, so he kept pushing his luck and taking what he wanted, legal or not.

Sounds like a lot of high achieving kids of high achieving parents here, who think that their kids can do no wrong--and feel so guilty for working such long hours that they let them have whatever they want without restriction.

One of my cousins grew up in such an atmosphere of privilege and parental guilt. She and her five siblings were among the wealthiest families in their small, idyllic town. All were gifted, yet none of them "turned out well". They expected top dollar pay checks fresh out of college, and changed jobs frequently when things didn't go their way. One became alcoholic, chronically unemployed; one aimed low in life, and despite advanced degrees, ended up being a mechanic. Another had a drug problem, is also chronically unemployed, and in and out of rehab at his elderly parents' expense. Another dropped out of medical school to start a pool and spa business. The fifth dropped out of grad school to start a heating and air conditioning business, which failed. The one female cousin has never had a job, became a perpetual student in three different states, and has married and divorced three times. She lives off of a trust fund.

Six gifted children who were spoiled and never denied access to anything, and despite all their education, only two are somewhat gainfully employed.

Not hard to see Brock Turner going down an even more tragic road.


Posted by teacher
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 11, 2016 at 9:35 pm

This kid could have walked right out of Gunn or Paly.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Jun 12, 2016 at 10:09 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

These kids go from towns that never say No to a university that never says No.

Stanford goes out of its way to insulate its students from the consequences of violation of both the Fundamental Standard and State and local laws.

Academic and athletic achievement are given far more importance than moral behavior.


Posted by suki
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 12, 2016 at 10:13 am

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Posted by TellIt
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 12, 2016 at 10:30 am

First it was the alcohol and a bad decision that did it.
Then the it was the swim team and Fraternity couture that pushed him, like some invisible hand on his back, to his crime.
Now its his home town and all the people who didn't tell him "No" when he grew up that turned him into a sociopath.
How can we ever expect such a "victim of society" to have a will of their own ?
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Posted by Sally
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 12, 2016 at 10:47 am

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Posted by TellIt
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 12, 2016 at 11:00 am

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Posted by Kazu
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 12, 2016 at 11:28 pm

So if it is the parents' fault, as the article suggests, then the Brockmeister is not to blame and the sentence was fair, right? So then why the hue and cry?

"Worth reading."

No, not worth reading.

"These kids go from towns that never say No to a university that never says No."

That is likely part of the problem. Hopefully the university will enact meaningful change instead of mere CYA and blaming the students as a whole. Encouraging common sense, good judgment and empathy would be a start.


Posted by Suki
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 13, 2016 at 4:27 am

Wow.

If you show a tiny bit of support for Brock - whose life is now completely destroyed - you are either put in the stocks like Poor judge pesky or your blog is censored by the Palo ALto Online.

No room for free speech here. If you do not say what is accepted your post is censored.


Posted by California transplant2
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 13, 2016 at 8:26 am

Read Turner's and his father's statement again, people. Then talk to someone who has lived in his part of the country. They basically blamed sinful California values for turning him into a [portion removed] because he thought that behavior was normal and was such an innocent rube coming from Mayberry, he didn't know the difference. [Portion removed.] He blamed the drinking on California for corrupting him because, where he comes from, that's playing to the crowd.

There is full on subtext and code in those statements, playing to a home audience for sympathy, practically inciting people who live in a world where denial is a badge of honor, and kids have years of hiding and getting away with that kind of behavior - thinking it's fun to get away with things - before they ever leave for those corrupting places where - gasp - people drink beer.


Posted by Kazu
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 13, 2016 at 8:44 am

"If you show a tiny bit of support for Brock - whose life is now completely destroyed - you are either put in the stocks like Poor judge pesky or your blog is censored by the Palo ALto Online."

Correct. What you see going on in these comments has little to nothing to do with justice, morality, or what did or didn't happen. The media loves this kind of stuff and the resulting three ring circus. For them, it is a windfall.


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