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Prosecution questions integrity of witness in Turner trial

Original post made on Mar 22, 2016

The testimony of an expert witness, who asserted that someone who is black-out drunk can still make "voluntary decisions," became a point of debate in a Palo Alto courthouse Tuesday, the seventh day of the sexual-assault trial of People v. Brock Allen Turner.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, March 22, 2016, 5:36 PM

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Posted by Ellis
a resident of another community
on Mar 22, 2016 at 7:11 pm

Expert witnesses are called to educate/verify. And yes, sometimes they need compensation for their time. What this article tells me is that the conversation about alcohol use among teens and young adults needs to increase in every school and in every household. Young adults don't have fully developed brains, and in this day and age, in these overly privileged communities, they truly don't believe that anything bad will happen if they drink too much. Being "wasted" is not a defense, however, the testimony by Ms. Fromme does affirm what we older adults already know....while memories are impaired, conscious decisions are capable of being made while in a alcohol induced blackout. I'm staying neutral thus far on this while weighing testimony/evidence, which the Weekly is doing a superb job of reporting.


Posted by Faust
a resident of Professorville
on Mar 22, 2016 at 11:02 pm

How horrible that there is a woman who is a hired gun against rape victims like this. I looked her up. She testified FOR THE RAPISTS IN STEUBENVILLE. She gave the same testimony about how that totally unconscious girl also "could have" consented. I guess she consented to be raped and abused by all those boys who stripped her naked and raped her and wrote on her body with a sharpee and then consented to have it posted to the internet. Maybe she consented to all that. I guess that happened off-camera.

Shame on Mike Armstrong for hiring her. Shame on this kid and his family for going to trial and putting the victim through this charade. This is sickening and this woman is not credible and moreover any woman who would do what she is doing has sold a lot more than her testimony and her time.


Posted by Faust
a resident of Professorville
on Mar 22, 2016 at 11:11 pm

Here's the article about her testifying in Steubenville: Web Link

Interestingly in this case she was also called out of turn, in the middle of the prosecution's case, supposedly to accommodate her schedule: Web Link

Testified for Naval Academy rape defendant: Web Link


Posted by Valleyperson
a resident of Barron Park
on Mar 22, 2016 at 11:56 pm

Faust: Do you feel that the accused should have plead guilty and served 21 years in prison instead of fighting for his freedom?


Posted by zombie
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 23, 2016 at 1:30 pm

zombie is a registered user.

This is such baloney! An unconscious person has no awareness during the unconscious period!

What that dingbat expert witness testified demonstrates ignorance.

She may as well state that an unconscious person on an operating table can sit up during surgery and decide she wants to go dancing now!!!!

Utterly ridiculous!


Posted by Alice Smith
a resident of Green Acres
on Mar 23, 2016 at 2:28 pm

Alice Smith is a registered user.

The real tragedies: this young woman, victim of alcoholism, needs a great deal of therapy and counseling. If not AA, then she should join some alternative help group and understand the importance of not poisoning herself to an early death. She has put herself in jeopardy by not showing self-control and intelligent decisions. The young man's problems are not separated from her risky life-style and inadequate self-control. Each has responsibility for his or her acts and omissions.


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