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No quick fixes for Palo Alto's new 'parkland'

Original post made on Sep 1, 2015

What was once a quarry that few in Palo Alto knew existed is now a quandary at the center of the city's debate about future recreation needs. On Monday night, the council agreed not to make any decisions about the city's newly dedicated parkland next to Foothills Park for at least another year, pending a hydrology study.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 2:05 AM

Comments (13)

Posted by Phil Chlora
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 1, 2015 at 10:22 am

>> The soil on the site is rocky and ill-suited for planting new trees, said
>> Daren Anderson, manager at the Community Services Department.
>> While some trees have survived there, their growth had been stunted
>> by the poor soil condition and they required a significant amount of
>> compost, Anderson said.

There are a lot of permaculture groups in California and around
the Bay Area. This area would make a good permaculture development
project to teach and demo permaculture ideas, and maybe grow food
while repairing the land and teaching students sustainable land
management techniques.

Definitely getting people out there is key. Maybe first, offer a photo
contest of who can take and share the best photos to let the rest of
Palo Alto see and know this resource through photography.


Posted by Jonathan Brown
a resident of Ventura
on Sep 1, 2015 at 11:00 am

No one is suggesting that this could be a site for vehicle dwellers which could then be banned elsewhere in the city. And we could offer them (and anyone else who applied) permaculture jobs and agriculture training along the lines of Phil's idea!


Posted by MapNeeded
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Sep 1, 2015 at 11:25 am

Is there a map available showing foothills park and the new parcel?


Posted by anon
a resident of Monroe Park
on Sep 1, 2015 at 11:43 am

Aerial map on p 2 of
Web Link

It is not included in the trail map of the park ... but this provides the context. It is the continuation of Las Trampas Valley, beyond the Oak Grove Picnic area in the upper left part of the map, along Buckeye Creek.

Web Link


Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 1, 2015 at 11:45 am

You all seem to forget that last year a large number of people were invited to review this property and provide suggestions for its use. And we all did. Those suggestions - where are they? Do not go into a "let's start over" mode like no to time has already been invested in this.

This particular area is well suited for a special events area for children's camping, holiday hay rides, rental for parties and events.
There is already building there for the park Rangers - it is not without some plumbing.
Build a special events BARN with a kitchen, bathrooms, space for gatherings both in and outside. Since there are no trees then this is already set up for that purpose.
You can make this area pay for its self with very little investment. A BARn for special events is a perfect response for this area.


Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on Sep 1, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Previous article from Nov 25 -- Web Link

More background from Aug 19 a year ago -- Web Link

@Phil, here's a photo I posted in an earlier thread, taken on the Oct 18 tour -- Web Link -- the west end of the 2-acre flat portion. Acterra's plot is near the east end.


Posted by only half joking
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2015 at 4:55 pm

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Posted by LOL
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2015 at 5:01 pm

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Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 2, 2015 at 8:56 am

One problem pointed out by the rangers is the overflow on the creeks. Not a problem up to now but if an El Nino is especially brutal than that area will have some problems - but assume that the whole of that geographic area will have problems.

The theory posted that we should wait 5 years sound like you are waiting for someone to die. Who would that be?

Excuse me but that is a waste of good property. And though many are attempting to downgrade it so people will not pay attention - forget it.

It is in horse country, a special events location for hayrides; children's parties with some farm animals; Children's supervised pony rides; a Barn with kitchen and bathrooms for larger events like fund raisers, etc. I am not proposing a permanent location for animals since that is lion country. But the stables can bring in animals for special events.

So what is all of the hesitancy about here? Is someone waiting to make a trade for something else?
Someone needs to step up to the plate and project a plan that includes some ability to deal with El nino type events. If you thought this was dry before than widen a creek area so kids can explore a creek.


Posted by Gus L.
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 2, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Interesting...
That "Private Residence" next to the area is John Arrillagas Compound...
Arrillaga didn't have any problem building on his Quarry...
Web Link


Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 4, 2015 at 9:28 am

There is now another story on this location concerning the tree farm. Both need to be read together to get a fuller picture of this property.


Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 4, 2015 at 9:09 pm

Given the history of this site, the city should definitely put a fence around the new parkland. It's going to have to eventually, it might as well be now.


Posted by Curmudgeon
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 4, 2015 at 9:24 pm

It's public park land, dammitt! Why not open it to everybody and debate how to use it for a century or two?


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