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Shop Talk: Parking problems brew at Philz Coffee

Original post made on May 25, 2015

Parking is getting tight in Midtown, and the opening of a new cafe may make matters worse.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, May 25, 2015, 8:34 AM

Comments (20)

Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 25, 2015 at 9:09 am

Make the parking spots 30 mins only.

Posted by Not yours
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on May 25, 2015 at 9:19 am

Where does this rank among the other world class problems plaguing palo,alto?
The choices are:

Airplane noise
Train noise
Too many cars in palo,alto
People parking on public streets
New buildings are nit in the Spanish colonial style
Too many companies downtown
Too many restaurants downtown
Not enough local retail on California avenue
The JCC looks ugly
Buena vista to be closed
You do not have final say on what kind of home your neighbor should build

Given all the above problems facing the city, is is a wonder we do not have more people having nervous breakdowns

Posted by Gale Johnson
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 25, 2015 at 10:36 am

@Not yours
I'm having one now. Your long list caused it. I think I'll recover tho!

Posted by AlexDeLarge
a resident of Midtown
on May 25, 2015 at 11:06 am

Try parking 100 yards away there's a slew of amazing parking spots.

Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 25, 2015 at 1:24 pm

Hulkamania is a registered user.

"Try parking 100 yards away there's a slew of amazing parking spots."

100 yards?!?! Philz's needs to either add a fleet of golf carts to transport the entitled masses that final 100 yards or provide valet parking.

Posted by gf
a resident of College Terrace
on May 25, 2015 at 2:02 pm

gf is a registered user.

i think "Not yours" comments above can apply to almost all of these pa complaints we see online. anybody know how to auto re-post his/her comment to every pa online thread? :-)

"Where does this rank among the other world class problems plaguing palo,alto?
a wonder we do not have more people having nervous breakdowns"

Posted by C'est Moi
a resident of Midtown
on May 25, 2015 at 5:23 pm

I have never had a problem parking at Philz because I have always parked in the large lot on the other side of the building. That tiny lot in front of Philz is notoriously tight and fender-bender prone. There is simply no reason to park in red zones and places that display no parking signs.

Posted by parent
a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 12:04 am

Please do not park in the bike lane across the street from Philz. That is extremely dangerous to kids biking to school as well illegal. NO PARKING signs are clearly posted, but I wish the cops would enforce them more strictly.

Posted by Hugo
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 26, 2015 at 10:40 am

The owner of Bill's Cafe that thinks that visitors will be walking there and not adding to the parking problems is extremely naive.

Posted by Teacher K
a resident of Fairmeadow
on May 26, 2015 at 10:44 am

Remember the beloved kitty Harley who was sent to Hawaii or Japan by accident? He was safely returned but met his demise in that tiny parking lot :-(

Posted by Robert
a resident of another community
on May 26, 2015 at 10:48 am

@Hugo, the only people affected by this "parking problem" are those choosing to park there, i.e. those who are contributing to the problem.

Posted by alternatives
a resident of Barron Park
on May 26, 2015 at 11:08 am

1) Philz could offer incentives to NOT driving for a cup of coffee or 2) limited time to park in lots

And to that Philz customer who thinks the condo sign isn't so nice, Get grip! You're the one invading their neighbor hood to get a luxury product like COFFEE. Think about what you'd be saying if someone was parked in your spot.

Posted by nat
a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 11:26 am

Next to Ernie's Liquors is a very large parking lot. This is on Middlefield Rd. just around the corner from Philz.

Posted by Billz
a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 11:45 am

Will success ruin Midtown? Parking will always be a problem with desirable hot spots. Phil of Philz is a good neighbor, and he is resonable when approached. He fixed up the old shop and gave our neighborhood a really nice place to hang out on the porch with friends and neighbors. I'd like to see him kill the wi-fi and get everyone talking to each other again... That's another matter.
AJ's, while being a good dry cleaners is ironically not clean and often has broken coin op machines. The liquor store new owners are very nice and run a decent business. I hear Bill's is great from my SJ friends and people make a driving destination for a good and fun breakfast/brunch gathering spot so bye-bye nearby parking. Generally most people I know ( and don't know) that visit Phiz are considerate. Maybe the nearby churchs could offer parking for a few $ for those that linger over coffee or brunch and get some income.
After all aren't our coffee rituals like church?

Posted by How to walk or bike to Philz from the south.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 26, 2015 at 12:07 pm

I live about 2 miles away from Philz, near the Mountain View border of Palo Alto. I walk or bike to Philz across Mitchell Park on off-road trails to connect to Cowper and ride to Loma Verde where I turn right which lands me at Philz. It's a leisurely ride or walk. I never have trouble parking my bike.

I like the Philz sign. It's fun--and adds local "color". We need some of that. their coffee is fabulous.

Posted by Another resident
a resident of Barron Park
on May 26, 2015 at 12:11 pm

I get ticked off by people who sit in any coffee shop for HOURS at a time while sipping on one and only cup of coffee. Apparently they don't want to stay at home all the time playing on the internet, so their idea of 'going out and being with people' is to relocate to a coffee shop with their laptop while continuing playing on the internet. So there is still no social interaction, but they do take up precious parking spaces.
Incidentally, the other day in Starbucks i saw a woman sleeping across two leather chairs and she didn't even bother to order any drink. Where else can you do that?

Posted by KP
a resident of South of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 12:34 pm

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I live on E Meadow and just walk over there. It's hella crowded all the times that I go, but the PhilteredSoulTrain is worth the wait! Love Philz and am looking forward to the new restaurant.

I wish more people would walk or ride bikes, but sometimes when you are on your way somewhere and you stop for're in a car. Not every one is just "out for coffee" only to go home. I get it.
Parking sucks, but you don't always have to have front row parking either...park further away and walk a bit from your car.

Posted by KP
a resident of South of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 12:37 pm

KP is a registered user.

Oh and btw...
@Another Resident - who cares how long or how many coffees someone has. Some people just need to get out and maybe that's the place they like to go. Not your problem.
Sleeping and taking up space for no would piss me off, too!

Posted by Philz Neighbor
a resident of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 2:55 pm

It may be true that 80% of Philz customers are are "in and out in 15 minutes" but what that means for the residents/property owners next door is a constant stream of traffic in and out of our parking lot with customers who trample landscaping, leaving trash and cigarette butts behind. Philz and the building owner need to be better neighbors. For those who think it is not a big deal, ask yourself how you would feel with this happening in your own driveway and yard.

Posted by Jean G
a resident of South of Midtown
on May 26, 2015 at 5:16 pm

Philz is great - just park next door at the liquor store or walk a few blocks. Several neighbors have been meeting there for years and many friends have been made over coffee there.
Yes - TeacherK, I remember Harley the cat very well from the old coffee shop - in fact I wrote a children's book about the visit to Japan, tho he didn't come back to die in my book. Coffee shop habitue's actually held a memorial service for Harley back then.
Billz, Re AJ's cleaners - yes its filthy, run down, machines in deplorable condition - I don't go there any longer, there is a nice clean one at Charleston shopping center.

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