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Stanford set to roll out ambitious trail project

Original post made on May 18, 2015

After more than two years of planning and designing, Stanford University is looking to break ground this month on an ambitious trail project to create a smoother trip for bicyclists and pedestrians around its campus, the nearby foothills and north Palo Alto.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, May 18, 2015, 11:45 AM

Comments (20)

Posted by parent
a resident of Stanford
on May 18, 2015 at 12:09 pm

When are we finally going to get a family-safe bicycle route from Stanford to the Arastradero Preserve? Hasn't Stanford been promising this for years (or decades)?

Also, how about installing some toilets at the Dish? Pushing the parking lot half an hour (walking speed) farther away really puts the Dish out of bladder range for most families.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on May 18, 2015 at 12:22 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

" how about installing some toilets at the Dish?"

First - demand public access to private property
Second - then demand amenities like free parking
Third - then demand toilets
Fourth - then demand right to camp overnight
Fifth - then demand the obvious right to build homes on someone else's property.

This is the Palo Alto Entitlement Association at work.


Posted by Joseph E. Davis
a resident of Woodside
on May 18, 2015 at 12:37 pm

Calling this effort a "trail" serves to unjustly associate it with the idea of walking through a pleasant natural environment. It would more accurately be called a "sidewalk".


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 18, 2015 at 1:03 pm

Please do not mix pedestrians and bikes on the same trail. Having attempted to walk Stevens Creek Trail with my family one weekend, it proved impossible to relax, walk together or have a conversation. Fortunately we did not have young children with us, but I did see those with young children scared for the safety of their toddlers who were not able to deal with the steady stream of bikes.

Bikes are vehicles and should not be mixing with motorized vehicles or pedestrian (foot) traffic.


Posted by Reader
a resident of another community
on May 18, 2015 at 1:44 pm

Bicycles can co-exist in a relatively peaceful way with pedestrians and automobiles in pretty much every country on this planet. Go to the Netherlands, Southeast Asia, etc. and see for yourself.

Is there something inherently different and unique with Palo Alto that makes this an impossibility?

And yes, I am a pedestrian, cyclist, and automobile driver.


Posted by Mike
a resident of Mountain View
on May 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm

Any improvement is welcome. Regarding the Stevens Creek trail, all cyclists must treat each pedestrian like a 3 year old child, and always be prepared for the unexpected, because the trail belongs to everyone.


Posted by Dorx
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 18, 2015 at 2:13 pm

I remember Stanford promising this back in the early 90s, when I first attendeda! As usual, the powers that run these things at Stanny are full of baloney.

Secondly, in the Netherlands, there is a separation of pedestrians ( sidewalk), bikes ( lane next to sidewalk protected by berms), and motor vehicles ( roadway). There, if you hit a bikerider, you get mandatory lifeprisonment!


Posted by Reader
a resident of another community
on May 18, 2015 at 3:08 pm

Larger Dutch cities do have cycling lanes, but not everywhere, and in some places, bicycles and pedestrians share the same asphalt. On some paths, bicycles and autos share the same asphalt.

Dedicated cycling paths are quite rare in Southeast Asia.

Again, there is nothing unique about Palo Alto that requires dedicated bicycle paths. More, it is limited lack of awareness of others.

This self-absorption has infected pedestrians as well, as many are far more interested in looking at their cellphones while they are walking and bumping into other pedestrians.

Appalling.


Posted by Jim H.
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 18, 2015 at 4:32 pm

Drivers get mad at cyclists, cyclists get mad at drivers. Now, we're moving on to pedestrians not liking cyclists and I'm sure cyclists are annoyed by pedestrians. I doubt any of these "factions" are solely members of only one of these modes. I think a lot of it goes to the growing selfishness of people in general. When someone else makes a mistake, that person is an idiot. When you make a mistake, it's, well, just an honest mistake. No one is perfect. We've all made boneheaded moves either in a car, on foot or on a bike. We're all in this together. The sooner we accept that other people are just important as we are, the better it will be for all of us.


Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 18, 2015 at 5:30 pm

Can we please stop calling this a "trail project?" These aren't trails. They might be bike paths or sidewalks with yellow lines, but they aren't trails.


Posted by parent
a resident of Stanford
on May 18, 2015 at 5:31 pm

Conflicts can be avoided if the trail is designed with enough width and visibility to support the expected traffic level. If they build a substandard path, they are asking for trouble. They seem to be advertising this as a transportation route, so it should be designed to support large numbers of commuters (students biking to school, etc).


Posted by Kate
a resident of Stanford
on May 18, 2015 at 8:52 pm

I am a Stanford resident who pays taxes to the City of Palo Alto. When Palo Alto grants me the privilege to hike at Foothills Park, then it will be acceptable for non-Stanford residents to complain about parking, access to the Dish, and everything else Stanford does to help the community. Let's have perspective, people: this is truly a First World Problem.


Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on May 18, 2015 at 9:33 pm

@Kate, you can hike in to Foothills Park from the Arastradero preserve anytime the park is open.


Posted by funny
a resident of Stanford
on May 18, 2015 at 10:10 pm

@musical and you can hike to the Dish from El Camino anytime too!


Posted by K
a resident of University South
on May 19, 2015 at 3:49 am

It would be so amazing if they would build a nice pedestrian and bicycle bridge where University Avenue in downtown crosses over Alma, the Circle and El Camino Real into Palm Drive. There are so many people who walk and bike there everyday and the traffic is pretty darn dicey for pedestrians and cyclist. The campus is such a beautiful place to walk and ride but you take your life in your hands crossing from downtown or vice versa.


Posted by Alex
a resident of College Terrace
on May 19, 2015 at 11:36 am

Kudos for proposing to relocate this death trap parking alongside Stanford ave! I frequent this route as a driver, runner, and cyclist, and at least once a week some person with poor driving/parking skills puts me in a very dangerous situation. Hopefully, they'll put a nice wide sidewalk on the other side of Stanford ave as well, so people would stay clear off the bike lane and the road.


Posted by Look at the plans, please
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 19, 2015 at 5:01 pm

What's evident in most of these comments is that the writers have not bothered to LOOK AT THE PLANS. They have made lots of wrong assumptions about what is to be built.

Based on the comments, I bet that if these folks bothered TO LOOK AT THE PLANS before they wrote, they'd be celebrating rather than complaining.

LOOK AT THE PLANS, please.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on May 19, 2015 at 5:06 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"It would be so amazing if they would build a nice pedestrian and bicycle bridge where University Avenue in downtown crosses over Alma, the Circle and El Camino Real into Palm Drive"

Alma is a Palo Alto street - why should Stanford solve every problem that poor Palo Alto has?


Posted by MadamPresident
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 19, 2015 at 5:31 pm

Just please don't kill cats when driving. Please don't speed, please stop, please let them pass


Posted by Stanford Employee
a resident of another community
on May 21, 2015 at 9:45 am

This is a good compromise. The only thing that could be improved is to make a Marguerite stop at or near the Dish. Otherwise, employees, students and residents alike should be happy about this.


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