Town Square
It's 11:40 PM & there's a party outside my bedroom
Original post made by Tired on Addison, Addison School, on Dec 13, 2014
Comments (26)
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 14, 2014 at 6:39 am
Not sure why Yu are posting your complaint on this forum. If the noise was a problem, call the police. Is this even real or just an attempt to stir the pot?
a resident of Addison School
on Dec 14, 2014 at 8:04 am
I Did call the non emergency PAPD number 2 x & put in noise complaint. This is Very Real "Agenda".
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 14, 2014 at 8:19 am
Did the police respond? Did they address the issue? I will check the police logs to see how many complaints were filed about the party. If it as loud as you say, there must have been multiple complaints. But still the question remains, why post about it on this forum?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 14, 2014 at 9:00 am
It is Saturday night. Why be so surprised, we have neighbors with loud parties too. Is it the noise they are making or that it is Meyer that makes you so upset?
But our neighbors are not famous. Perhaps if yours weren't you would keep it to yourself.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 14, 2014 at 9:07 am
Usually when our neighbors have a loud party they warn us. 11:40 is kind of late, but not real late. If the party noise ended by 12:00 or 12:30, and only happens once in a great while, well, it's annoying and perhaps illegal but doesn't seem that bad.
There would certainly be a problem if someone in your household is especially impacted by noise or party noise; e.g. if they like to listen to quiet music.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 14, 2014 at 9:38 am
Chris Zaharias is a registered user.
I emphatically support all loud parties in Palo Alto, including ones next door to me. Palo Alto needs more parties, more dancing, more noise, more fun, more rambunctiousness.
Party on people, party on!
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 14, 2014 at 10:55 am
Posting on this forum is not going to make a difference.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 14, 2014 at 11:22 am
Tired on Addison must be the same group that complained about the Halloween Parties.
Did everyone go to the great street party the techies put on?
That was one of the best ever and everyone had smiles on their faces. The creativity on design and presentation was true Hollywood great.
Yeah!!!!!! Bring it on - we need more festivity and fun.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 14, 2014 at 12:03 pm
I totally support this complaint! Maybe Mayer will finally get a clue and warn neighbors about parties.
So when did the noise stop? Did the police come out?
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 14, 2014 at 12:53 pm
The tired people - how old are you? If you went to Stanford as a young person then you saw a lot of action - from protestors throwing bombs on campus to lots of noise for demonstrations, parties, and general hoopla for being young. And you were probably in the middle of it. SU, CAL-Berkley are not quiet places. You live in a college town and the financial capital generation center on the west coast.
a resident of Addison School
on Dec 14, 2014 at 5:23 pm
Yes memories, the police did come out. a few times. thank you for understanding.. And resident 1, Its not that I mind parties. Its not that I can't live with a little noise. The party for me began days before, and I did not say a thing. I had construction crew people right out side my window pounding in the foundation for the ice. I did not complain. The drilling went all the way thru the week -outside my home- and I still did not complain. I didn't even complain during the party which kept me out of part of my home due to the noise and vibration (not to mention the banging of ice skates up on the walls of the rink-Yet, i did not complain. I complained when 11:30 pm rolled around and the music became louder instead of quieter. That is when I called police. This morning I was up by 7 am, not by choice but from the deconstruction sounds of the demolition crew. Im not young -im not old - I just think I have the right to a bit of peace and quiet during the later hours of the evening. in my own home- and Ive had to listen to a generator for 4 nights keeping the ice cold. So resident 1, I know you. I know why you are trying hard to defend this act of poor neighbor conduct.
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 14, 2014 at 5:38 pm
This is really is about much more than noise. It's about a week of disruption to construct a private ice rink on a parking lot in a residential neighborhood. I'd be ticked too.
What kind of permit is needed for that?
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Dec 14, 2014 at 7:13 pm
I agree it's a bone to pick with Mayer.
I grew up here. Palo Altans have too many opinions that they don't mind sharing. They get so accustomed to speaking up, changing rules, overriding rules, and having things their way, that they become immune to how petty their complaints are. I know this, because I have caught myself complaining about stupid things. We get so used to winning and having our way.
"Tired on Addison", let it go, for Pete's sake - it will end soon. There are other issues in life needing one's focus. Don't let others control your emotions.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 14, 2014 at 10:28 pm
This is way worse than it first sounded. They could've just rented an ice rink, for example, and invited you. Those generators are loud and disruptive.
Perhaps you can have a chat with Mayer's people and the cops in order to lay things out for the future that are acceptable for everyone. I also wonder what permits were needed. Did the police mention permits?
For your home to not be the sanctuary it is supposed to be for that many days is a problem, and one that's bound to be repeated unless you take action.
Wishing you peaceful days for the remainder of the holiday season.
a resident of Addison School
on Dec 15, 2014 at 12:31 am
The display of wealth on trivia is offensive. They hosed in icewater to create snow outside as well. Many trucks, many workers. Lots of noise.
Tech moguls have so much money they think they need to spend it. Larry Ellison is another ostentatious spender, mostly on self-aggrandisement. At least this was a party for other people.She is hardly the worst.
The new-rich really lower the once civilized tone of this town.
a resident of Midtown
on Dec 15, 2014 at 6:28 am
Construction permits should have been issued to construct or demo an ice skating rink. City statues specify what hours construction can occur, and 7:00 am is outside those hours.
PA Muncipal code: "9.10.030 Residential property noise limits.
(a) No person shall produce, suffer or allow to be produced by any machine, animal or device, or any combination of same, on residential property, a noise level more than six dB above the local ambient at any point outside of the property plane.
Beyond that, we are still in drought, and creating an ice rink (if that what it was) during a drought seems somewhat excessive.
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 15, 2014 at 6:58 am
What is strange here is that Palo Alto does have a skating rink in the mid-town area. If that rink was reserved for a few hours at a good rental rate then the rink would have benefited and the students would then have a place to skate in the future with their families.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 15, 2014 at 7:00 am
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If someone complains about something, just leave it alone. Why attack them for complaining about something that you have no idea would or would not bother you or be a problem for you? Could be a lot of those standing up for the excesses and impositions of the tech money are brownnosing minions. That is not law and order, that is not democracy.
About 5 years ago when I started noticing airplane noise as having gone up and being a real serious problem of a magnitude that it never was before, I got all the same nasty comments. Now we see there are lots and lots of Palo Altans who notice this problem and are doing something about it. Goes to show any person with any intelligence that most complaints have grounds. Not all, but most people don't just imagine things to complain about to "stir the pot".
Why can't we have a community where people are considerate, and when they are not and someone complains they get a little support?
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a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Dec 15, 2014 at 7:29 am
I agree with above - however some people have chosen to post their aggravations on these sites with less information and more emotion that distorts the situation. They are inviting comments by taking on a situation in a public forum instead of working directly with the people concerned. They chose to put names of the supposed aggressors but remain themselves invisible. I would have gone across the street and told them they cannot park there and call the police / city hall immediately.
Some people are looking for other people to deal with the problem through public condemnation - public condemnation is not a good way to function. If you are looking for public condemnation on an issue then the chips are going to fall somewhere.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 15, 2014 at 7:42 am
It seems that the real problem to the OP was not the noise on Saturday night, but the generators and the creation of an ice rink. I would definitely have more sympathy for the private ice rink noise than the party.
Loud parties happen all over Palo Alto. Construction of ice rinks not so much. Yes we do have an ice rink and it can be rented for private parties, but the demand is so high that people camp out all night to get the best dates.
If the OP wants to vent, at least vent about the real issue and don't come back with the real information a day or so later.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 15, 2014 at 8:02 am
resident 1,
The public condemning one person for speaking up about something is worse.
I happen to not mind party noise, but this particular neighbor appears to be making the funeral place a regular special events venue. Does she answer the door when people go there to complain? I would imagine it's the catering staff that greets you. Personally, I wouldn't want to show up at such an event and demand to see Ms. Mayer.
The reason one warns neighbors about a party (in advance) is part being thoughtful and respectful, and part to have an understanding so that no fuss develops from and a bothered neighbor coming over.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 15, 2014 at 5:12 pm
Palo Alto and most cities have a noise ordinance, because people are entitled to the quiet enjoyment of their homes, regardless of whatever someone else thinks about their desire for peace and quiet. In fact, the state mandates just a handful of elements to be in Cities' comprehensive plans, and noise is one of them.
You don't know what someone's individual circumstances are, either. A lot of noise for someone with small children, with health problems, someone in hospice -- someone making a recording for their grandchildren while relatives are visiting and leaving the next day -- who knows? it's their business, and their right to expect the noise ordinances to be followed.
I agree with the previous posters -- if you want to violate the laws, it helps to just let people know in a friendly way beforehand, usually neighbors are a lot more understanding then, and if they have a real problem with it, that's when it's easier for communication to happen.
I'm not in that neighborhood, and want to second the call for courtesy on all sides.
My take on this is just to wish that Mayer and her friends would take some of that money and invest in a livable community for everyone, especially the kids, the way Passarelle (however you spell it) has done in Los Altos. Save the orchard at Maybell, save the Frys site and maybe even get a community pool there and Maker space. Build another bowling alley. Support real estate that makes it possible for family-friendly small businesses to be here.
(I think then not a soul would begrudge a loud party here or there!)
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 15, 2014 at 5:55 pm
I knew Mayer through my son's work at Google. Not friends, just acquaintances. She was never a friendly person to people outsideGoogle, at that time. Seemed to have a VERY strange sense of entitlement back them, possibly worse now.
I must say, she is acting very oddly for someone with a little baby! She should also be more careful about alienating so many people, being a public figure who likes to keep a very high profile.
With all her money, she may be better off buying a mansion on acreage with no nearby neighbors--like in PA Hills, or a walled estate in Atherton. Palo Alto is too much of a family suburb for someone like Marissa Mayer.
a resident of Gunn High School
on Dec 16, 2014 at 8:08 am
Rabble rabble rabble!
Kids these days have no respect. When I was your age and we had a party we would go down to the town square and buy some sofa pop. I would hands with my best girl and maybe even steal a kiss if she let me.
These days all these computers are taking over. I mean I can't even get up out of bed in the morning without getting text messages and emails, not to mention all the ads that come on when I use the google to surf the wwww dot com
Interwebs
Anyway parties should be outlawed. Especially ones that sound as fun as this one. If I was invited it would be a different story, but I wasn't invited so I am definitely against all this fun happening
a resident of Palo Verde
on Dec 16, 2014 at 11:42 am
I like the idea of a new bowling alley, with market rate apartments on the 2nd floor.
Perfect set-up for noise complaints.
Side-effect the apartments may even become affordable.
a resident of Barron Park
on Dec 18, 2014 at 4:23 am
I hear loud noises down the street from me. It must be Marissa Mayer having another party. What other explanation could there be?
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