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Editorial: Skeptical about 'net zero'

Original post made on Aug 1, 2014

In a desire to explore what it describes as an innovative planning concept that could lead the state and nation in a new approach to managing development, the Palo Alto planning staff has opened up a potential can of worms that we hope the city council will approach with extreme caution.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, August 1, 2014, 12:00 AM

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Posted by That's right. Stanford is not a city.
a resident of South of Midtown
on Aug 1, 2014 at 1:06 pm

The city has little ability to make public transit and major transportation facilities improvements available. The money for those high-cost"luxuries" is doled out by bureaucratic transit authorities that operate like fiefdoms. Until the state and county demonstrate the political will to merge the transit authorities and yield some board seats to cities other than San Jose, Palo Alto will not get very lucky in the transit funding lottery.

Smart growth REQUIRES comprehensive, regional alternative transportation planning and resources. I am not confident at all that the current political climate and structure will ever provide that to our city.

Aside from transportation impacts of growth, Stanford does not have to educate the additional kids they bring into the community. PAUSD does that for them. Stanford is released from mitigating many of the impacts of their growth--because they are not a city. As a private property owner, Stanford has done a great job promoting alternative transportation, and I commend them for it, but what they have done with transportation cannot be replicated by this city or any city. Further, congestion is not the only important impact of growth that requires mitigation.

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Posted by Green Washing
a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 1, 2014 at 2:17 pm

The saddest part of all is that the city has lost our trust. They have skewed everything to help developers clean up at the expense of our livable city.
That they wrap up a plan in fancy concepts like 'net zero' just means it's more complicated, thus full of loopholes that developer's lawyers will exploit.
It's called Green Washing.

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Posted by Yeah that's right I'm angry
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 2, 2014 at 12:24 am

I'm reading this and thinking it should be called the "free lunch" plan. It calls to mind Gail Price going on and on about how PC zoning was such a great thing because it is so "flexible". Now that we're onto them about PC zoning, they want to pull a bait and switch that will be PC zoning on steroids. Keep residents permanently off kilter by making rules so unfathomable, the Council will be able to make them up, and residents can do nothing about it. Sort of like the way we are promised open space in our City code for a given amount of development, but in practice, it never really happens because there's no clear way to calculate or demand it.

No, the Comprehensive plan we have should remain, be improved, and we should be first discussing things like traffic circulation and safety that have changed a lot because of all the development and are STATE MANDATED to be there.

Residents : they are wasting your money trying to develop a plan you won't be able to do anything about. How to challenge the approved plan? (Is it referendable, or do we sue in court?) EIR, yeah right, kind of like that ridiculous cover up they called a traffic study that finds no impacts no matter what they develop.

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Posted by senor blogger
a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 2, 2014 at 8:38 am

Here's an interesting concept.


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Posted by martha
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Aug 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm

Thank you Weekly editors for pointing out the danger in selecting a mitigation measure as the driver of the new Palo Alto general/Comprehensive Plan. What a folly!

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Posted by Zoning not for sale
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 2, 2014 at 10:08 pm

So, here we are

How do you convince a town with people who already have everything they could ever need, to sell their zoning, and for how much.

I guess the plan is to appeal to their sense of social justice or to their "green" conscience. Tesla sells because showing you're rich is ok, but saying you re rich and care about the environment is even better. Add the tag "innovation" and voila, it's Palo Alto.

Let's say the appeal works, sounds like the problem may be price. At what price does Palo Alto decide to sell zoning in exchange for the "opportunity" to buy this green experiment for the world. Not to be paranoid or anything, but this sounds like a PC with the benefit cloaked in what sounds like acceptable currency, people's values.

My inclination would be to do other things that are green, that don't cost as much. A Prius maybe.

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Posted by Zoning not for sale
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 2, 2014 at 10:17 pm

Couldn't we just require net zero for all buildings in exchange for nothing?

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Posted by Zoning not for sale
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 3, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Apparently, Net Zero construction will be law in 2020 in California. Technologies for this have been in development for years. Some are simple and inexpensive. These should all be law in Palo Alto now and not a favor or "benefit" from developers.

All the other stuff, I agree is impossible to control (commuting patterns, water usage, people's personal recycling habits) and that is not for a developer to get credit for anyway. If every home does this, could we all build above 50 feet?

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Posted by common sense
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 3, 2014 at 6:52 pm

The example cited in the editorial, Stanford, doesn't tell the whole story. Sure traffic to the campus may be "net zero", but the surrounding neighborhoods are not - that's part of the reason why there is a parking permit system in College Terrace, and you'll see people parking in the Evergreen Neighborhood and walking/biking in.

And why would we want to give more discretion to city staff, when it's been very clear that they have a bias for development.

I think we should go in the opposite direction, and have residents vote on any major project.

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Posted by Contrarian
a resident of University South
on Aug 4, 2014 at 5:15 pm

Stanford cleverly pushed its parking overflow onto the Palo Alto streets near its shuttle stops.

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Posted by Contrarian
a resident of University South
on Aug 4, 2014 at 5:24 pm

Oops. I forgot to mention that net zero is a typo for not zero.

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