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Police, FBI 'dismantle' EPA-based 'Taliban' gang

Original post made on Mar 7, 2009

In a massive operation involving almost 500 FBI agents and local police in 14 cities, simultaneous raids at 7 a.m. Saturday resulted in the arrests of 32 members or known associates of the East Palo Alto-based Taliban street gang.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Saturday, March 7, 2009, 11:57 AM

Comments (50)

Posted by YouShouldKnow
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Sounds FANTASTIC to me! Ship 'em all off to long sentences, no parole.

I bet a lot of people in E. Paly are pretty happy right now. Probably a little scared too. I would be. Now is a good time for anonymous tips reporting anyone the raid missed. Strike while the iron is hot!


Posted by YSK
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 12:39 pm

Oh yes, let's get literal. Apparently you can't see the big picture through your superiority. So how about this: As each person they round up goes to trial, is proven guilty or not guilty, and if guilty, then is sentenced...


Posted by Peter
a resident of another community
on Mar 7, 2009 at 12:41 pm

YSK,

I believe that's how the system's supposed to work.


Posted by YSK
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 12:44 pm

Yup Peter, I was just jumping to the end because I thought everybody knew that.


Posted by ANON
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 3:29 pm

THIS ISNT GOING TO STOP ANYTHING THEY TRIED THE SAME THING WITH THE SAC STREET GANG ALL THE POLICE DID WAS MAKE THEM SMARTER THE TALIBAN IS GONE MOSTLY BLACK NOW POLICE AND FEDS OPENED PANDORAS BOX I GUESS THEY DIDNT DO THEIR HOMEWORK GOOD ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT THAT MEXICANS RUN EPA WHERE U THINK THEY GOT ALL THOSE DRUGS IM SO GLAD I GOT OUT OF THERE IN TIME EPA WILL NEVER CHANGE IT WILL JUST CONTINUE TO RAISE THE BAR THE FEDS AND LOCAL LAW CAN LEARN A THING OR TWO IF THEY STICK AROUND A LITTLE LONGER BUT THEY THINK EPA IS FULL OF IGNORANT LOWER CLASS CITIZENS AND ILL BET THEY THINK ITS OVER IF THEY ONLY KNEW IT IS JUST GONNA MOTIVATE HUNGRY YOUNGER HYPHIER STARVING REGULAR CITIZENS TO STEP IN WHEN THE GOV SPENDS 10 MONTHS TO TAKE DOWN A GANG OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT STEP IS TO ORGANIZE WITHOUT PROOF OF AN ORGANIZATION EAST PALO ALTO HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DRUG SPOT A SORT OF MECCA TO ADDICTS AND WITH THE ECONOMY THE WAY IT IS THE SMARTER MORE INTELLIGENT RESIDENTS WILL WEIGH THE ODDS AND FIGURE OUT THEY CAN EITHER GO FIND A MINIMUM WAGE JOB OR MAKE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY SIMPLY PROVIDING PRODUCTS IN HIGH DEMAND I THINK THE BEST THING THE FEDS COULD HAVE DONE IS SYSTEMATICALLY WEED THE GANG INSTEAD OF ATTEMPTING A KNOCKOUT BLOW WHICH WILL UNDOUBTLY LEAD TO A NEW BREED OF "ROGUE"
LOOK OUT BAY AREA THE FEDS MIGHT SPREAD STORIES OF SUCCESS BUT DONT BE FOOLED ALL THEY'VE DONE IS OPENED THE DOOR FOR THE NEXT GENERATION A GENERATION THAT HAS ALREADY COMTEMPLATED HOW THEY WOULD RUN EPA THE RAIDS HAVE JUST PUT THOSE PLANS INTO MOTION.


Posted by Jules
a resident of another community
on Mar 7, 2009 at 3:41 pm

Hey Anon,

Better than doing nothing. The police chief admits there are more gangs in EPA and he will target them too. EPA has been a bad town ever since my childhood, 40 years ago and it's still the same. Hopefully, this police chief will continue to clean house.


Posted by ANON
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 4:04 pm

WHAT IVE LEARNED GROWING UP IS THAT THIS WORLD IS FULL OF CONTINUOUS CYCLES HAVING TO LEARN TO LIVE IS HARD HAVING TO LEARN TO LIVE WHILE GROWING UP IN EPA ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE EPA'S CYCLE IS A NEGATIVE ONE TO OUTSIDERS BUT ITS THE OUTSIDERS THAT PROVIDE THE NEGATIVITY U REALLY THINK UR GONNA STOP THE DRUGS BUT ARRESTING THE DEALERS (WHO WILL NEVER SNITCH) THE CITY IS JUST WASTING MONEY THEY SHOULD INVEST IN EDUCATION OR CITY IMPROVEMENTS HOW IS IT THAT THEY CAN GET GOV ASSISTANCE TO RID THE DEALERS BUT NO FUNDS TO BUILD SIDEWALKS AND INSTALL STREET LIGHTS WHERE THOSE THAT DID SELL DRUGS EASILY HIDE THEMSELVES OR THEIR STASH COME ON WHY DONT THE FEDS CUT OFF THE FLOW OF DRUGS TO EPA INSTEAD OF THE FLOW TO THE FIENDS ALL THEY DID WAS CUT OFF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WOULD OF WENT BACK INTO GOV CIRCULATION AND PISSED OFF DRUG ABUSERS ALL ACROSS THE WEST BAY SO JULES IT MIGHT OF BEEN BETTER DOING NOTHIN BECAUSE ALL THE MONEY SPENT TO PAY OVERTIME TO THOSE STATE AND FED EMPLOYEES IS JUST A WASTE ITS NOT GOING TO STOP THE CYCLE EAST PALO ALTO RESIDENTS ARE STUCK IN IT JUST TURNS THE GOOD ONES BAD I GUESS ONCE AGAIN THE EPA PD HAS LED THE CITY INTO TEMPTATION!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Reality Check
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 5:05 pm

Criminals never snitch? Now who's being naive? EVERY criminal/drug dealer rolls over when it's their butt on the line> The whole "No snitching" code is convenient when you are trying to intimidate a community, but it goes out the window when you are looking at hard time. In my book, a snitch is a criminal who is trying to get out of trouble. A victim or innocent community member who wants to make their neighborhood safer is a brave and valuable resource. Also, try using some punctuation and take your keyboard of Caps Lock!


Posted by ANON
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 6:09 pm

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Posted by mislead
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 7:43 pm

YEa they have raided and got what the wanted but honestly the 18th month investigation was not well investigated.....me saying that is becuase if they knew...they would know that the main ring leaders are already in jail and half dead....and that taliban consist of mid town and menlo people....the g is fueding with taliban so how can they link them all to be tailban! So okay the have got about 30 people...most of the people had nothing to do with the taliban gang org. Its said that people that are just aqantiances went down. Its bad enough the ecomomy is the way it is and now people that have not committed a crime only associatation is in jail lookin at fed time.....its sad....and for epa police department....don't make it seem like yall the heroes because as many crooked cops that yal have on the force, they should have been takin yall down too....


Posted by Lmao
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 10:55 pm

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Posted by G-town
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 7, 2009 at 11:20 pm

It kills me when i here you people from the other neck of the woods speak on my stomping grounds. hey just be glad its not happening over there but soon it will. so enjoy your space and peace why it last.same thing goes on over in palo alto its just behind close doors.oh yeah i didnt use punctation merks or proper grammer but u xspect this cause im from the hood so i hpoe it bothers you learn that we do things different than others.THIS IS WHY WE ARE MISUNDERSTOOD.


Posted by Changedagame
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 9:39 am

These young people haven't given themselves a chance. I am 35yrs old born and raised in EPA, and I have been gone for about 4years and nothing has changed. In fact it has gotten worser. There is absolutley nothing for these young people to do but sell drugs. Why aren't some of these community leaders stepping up! [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] Help these young men and women get jobs without all the extra stuff. This place seems like there is a black cloud over the city. I remember a time when there was so much love in the town. What the hell happened. We gotta change the way we live yall!


Posted by BETTY
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 9:56 am

Oh my God, that is so true. Why don't places like Standford, Kaiser, Palo Alto Medical, Google, Yahoo, Tibco, Sun, Ebay, etc hire people from East Palo Alto. Give people a chance. Fortune 500 companies thrive right here in the bay area. please help them


Posted by anon
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 10:21 am

great now without the taliban, the pd have to provide peace and order themselves. too bad they dont have the money to do it


Posted by Ike
a resident of Palo Alto Orchards
on Mar 8, 2009 at 4:39 pm

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Posted by To Betty
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 4:39 pm

I have thought a lot about the jobs/career issue that you've brought up. One of the problems is that EPA residents may not pass background checks that a lot of companies do nowadays. Also, people have to be motivated to get hired by one of these organizations. But really, PAMF, Kaiser and Stanford have always hired a lot of EPA residents, and still do. It's the corporations more than the health organizations, that don't. Intuit has always made a recruiting effort into EPA and east Menlo, but the other companies haven't. Where EPA is responsible is when the residents lack the skills these companies need, so there is fault on both sides.


Posted by EPALADY IN THE G
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 4:55 pm

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Posted by eparesident
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 5:19 pm

why dont they waste money on improving our schools for our children, so many have closed down,and betty the reason why people dont pass a background check is because too many people this is the only way of life, and nobody gives them a chance, if there where more schools more job training more help i bet things would change in epa, but nobody cares they just want to clean the streets and get all of the blacks and latinos out of epa..


Posted by elle
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 5:21 pm

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Posted by po
a resident of Palo Alto Orchards
on Mar 8, 2009 at 5:29 pm

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Posted by nb
a resident of Triple El
on Mar 8, 2009 at 8:02 pm

The USA losing the war on drugs. 300 tons of cocaine consumed by Americans annually more than the rest of the world combined!!! Something is very wrong with America and i know what it is. America does not have Love !!! America is not a society for humans !Robots.
The usa is the country of bullshit and nothing but bullshit and lies.
In UK police does not carry guns !!! Think about it!!! America has hateful animals who do not know what they are doing . They do not live in real world. Wake up America ! Overthrow corporations and banks,gangs and corrupt politicians and cops who suck our blood !!!
Truth never was pretty. But it is better than propaganda.
Are you human ??? I have not seen one for 15 years !!!


Posted by somebody
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 8, 2009 at 8:09 pm

theres no jobs for us out here we need money to eat and pay bills so were out here hustlin how ever we can get it.


Posted by tired of the bs
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 8:57 pm

You know what, stop crying about no jobs and go out and find one. I work in EPA and just the other day was talking with someone from one of our local businesses. They are required to try to hire 30% EPA residents and were complaining because they have been trying to hire local, but everyone who comes in is covered with gang tats, dressed in baggy jeans and hoodies and cannot speak proper English (and I don't mean they speak Spanish). Then they said the people they do hire often don't show up on time and have no work ethic. EPA has the Four Seasons, Home Depot, Ikea, Best Buy, etc... Sports Authority is opening up this month with the Nordstrom Rack soon to follow.

How do you expect the Four seasons to give some hoodie with a criminal record the keys to the hotel? Should Sports Authority hire someone with a record of stealing and watch their inventory walk out the door?

And their are plenty of job training programs available, but you have to want to go and be motivated. It is easier to get up when ever you want, dress how you want and not have to be responsible for yourself than it is to have a job.


Posted by Neal
a resident of Community Center
on Mar 8, 2009 at 9:03 pm

Fact check: UK police do indeed carry guns!!!! Final answer.


Posted by the gardens
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 11:40 pm

I have a bachelors degree, and I have applied for many jobs in East Palo Alto and have had no luck, so if it is hard for me to get a job with a degree what makes you think others can get a job, its easy to say they will hire epa residents but they dont, and plus the media makes a big deal I am a epa resident and I have never been terrorized by no gang member C'mon im more scared to get killed by a serial killer in East Palo Alto or Woodside than by living in EPA..


Posted by the g
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 8, 2009 at 11:48 pm

OK East palo alto residents dont bash your own people online cmon now, your not helping the case, making us look worse than we already do, and people deserve a second chance he who is free from sin cast the first stone nobody is perfect, you have just as much crime on the streets of the hood than you have white collar crimes, the media makes a big deal about it, I heard the statement the fbi agent made that gang members terrorize the residents I dont know who they terrorize I sure have never been terrorized or scared, we should all stick together and focus on getting help for our school systems, focusing on doing things for our city instead of talking trash we need 2 unite and improve things we cant rely on anobody to do it change comes from within, and people need examples, what are our epa leaders doing for us


Posted by Mahummad
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 1:22 am

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Posted by lol
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:22 am

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Posted by tb
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:28 am

wenever i had school trips i coudnt afford, a taliban member would provide the money for my trip and some xtra cash in case i wanted to spend.despite what the media sais these guys weren't bad people.Jus youngstas growing up in a area where peoples mommas be on dope or daddys be in jail, so that positive infuence or role model isnt there.and whats funny is that theres someone on the other side of that bridge(palo alto) and its a totally different world for them butttttt i love america.lol...freedagoonz


Posted by shawn
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:39 am

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Posted by Future Teacher
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:46 am

I'm taking education classes right now and we recently learned about the (rather obvious) problem of the best teachers choosing to go to the best districts. Few teachers want to teach in a district like EPA where they feel threatened or unsafe. When I get my teaching credentials, I'm going to apply to teach in all the districts like EPA. We need better teachers who are going to find the right ways to keep the kids off of drugs. Help each child find what moves them. I think often people look at the youth of EPA as hopeless and helpless and that is the biggest problem. Get in there and help them. They are only kids.


Posted by Future Teacher
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:49 am

We also read this study about successful black males who came out of poor, undereducated, violent communities and the study noted that the only thing that all of the men who were able to leave the community and find success was one caring adult. That's all it takes. The kids whose dads are in jail and moms are doing drugs need just one caring adult. So everyone who commented here, go find one youngster in EPA and be that caring adult for them.


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 11:26 am


There already is a program at Stanford to tutor EPA kids
"East Palo Alto Tennis and Tutoring is a non-profit youth development organization housed at the Taube Tennis Stadium on campus. We are looking for volunteer tutors to work one-on-one with our K-12th grade students. Tutorial sessions are held during afternoon and evening hours Monday-Thursday, twice a week for an hour and a half each session. Academic tutors do not need to play tennis.

We are always looking for volunteers! Our volunteer application can be found online at www.epatt.org."Web Link


The breakdown of the Black family was enabled by social welfare programs that enable irresponsible behavior by Black males and females.

The only way out is individual responsibility by Black parents and the rebuilding of a two parent family culture, no one from the outside can do that, but we can stop enabling single parent families and absent fathers.


Posted by L.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:09 pm

I live in EPA, work in San Francisco and commute
every day by train for 1:30 minutes (one way).
I don't complain and find execuses or go sell drug just because I don't have a job right outside my door; I'm glad I have a job right now.

People migrate here from thousand of miles, far from their families, and kids in EPA complain that they can't find a job in EPA? Please...


Posted by Kate
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:36 pm

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Posted by MIDTOWN HOG
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 1:56 pm

What about the MIDTOWN in Palo Alto, CA. I am Sure there might be some white Taliban members over there that Sniff and smoke a lot of drugs too! Maybe That's where the drugs are coming from! The biggest drugs dealers now are the pharmaciticles companies over the counter drug dealers is what I call them. Prescriptions drugs are being used by teenagers & adults more in white neighborhoods. So they put a band on how much "pseudoephedrine that can be sold by a pharmacy or retailer without a prescription to 3.6 grams per day per person, or not more than 9 grams or three packages within 30 days" Why because its effecting whites more than blacks. Why they have not band banking soda if thats that case because there smart. The System is not for designed for that type of approach the System rather lockup American Blacks and American Hispanics up!

HONOLULU – A new law enacted this year to make it more difficult to buy large amounts of a key ingredient used to make “ice” also known as crystal meth went into effect yesterday, Oct. 1.

The new law, Act 171, reduces the amount of pseudoephedrine that can be sold by a pharmacy or retailer without a prescription to 3.6 grams per day per person, or not more than 9 grams or three packages within 30 days.

It also requires products that contain pseudoephedrine to be dispensed, distributed or sold from a secure area that is not accessible by customers or the general public, such as behind the counter or in a locked display case.

In addition, individuals who purchase pseudoephedrine products must show identification and sign for the drug purchase.

The law was signed on June 5 by Lt. Governor James R. “Duke” Arziona, Jr., in his capacity as Acting Governor. The pseudoephedrine portion of the bill did not take effect until Oct. 1 to give retailers and pharmacists time to implement the new requirements.

“The control of pseudoephedrine is another step in our Administration’s strategy to end substance abuse in our state,” said Lt. Governor Arizona. “We appreciate the cooperation of Hawaii retailers and pharmacists to accommodate the new requirements, including reconfiguring store displays and training employees about the new law. Their role in controlling the sale of this key ingredient that can be used to manufacture ice will make a difference in reducing the availability of dangerous illegal drugs.”


Posted by Mahummad
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm

Why do thay only target the black gangs


Posted by MR. WHITE
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:16 pm

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Posted by WhoRUpeople
a resident of another community
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:16 pm

There is no valid or justifiable reason(s) that make it right to deal drugs, pimp under-age children, kill people for their belongings, or extort money from people. It should not matter if the offenders live east of 101 (regardless of the adjoining west of 101 community), what ethnic background they may claim as heritage, whether or not they were abused as children, whether or not they do something good once in awhile, or whether or not they have a job. Wrong is wrong, crime is crime, violence is violence, and society should regurgitate anti-social behavior, regardless!


Posted by d.m.g
a resident of Menlo Park
on Mar 9, 2009 at 4:33 pm

Man What up with the jobs and stuff I remember grown up in the east of menlo and there was no job and go to epa to see dirt roads and nothing there not even store but it always been money out there now it bullshit how they taking the blacks @ latino and eying them out to be problem but the real problem the society I was born in the the little small area 35years ago and shit hasn't change I see the whole bay eat of this small place. born there but raised in the sfc and other parts of the bay just to see they locking the black communities I still have family in that two mile stay strong hold on. I am a real factor in the this Here I push check and game what really go on the government turn the little home into million dollar spot that is how it's done just hope it's not one your love one on the field with the game starts because the government don't have a heart they been taring us poor fool a apart it's a dog eat world. thanks for hearing my crys for my family, brothas,and friends here & gone to haven or the pen clean up the real problem that is jobs growth for the future that will fix the in east palo atlo & Menlo park and for that mater the dam bay area what is left of us black folks peace I out of here


Posted by Andrea
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 5:09 pm

A gang is gang, they are bad and need to be put in jail. Color doesn't matter.

Instead of complaining why not APPLAD the police for this GREAT raid!


Posted by spellcheck
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 6:50 pm

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Posted by g-town
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 7:02 pm

This the way the game goes. D boyz allways got to watch out for the punk police. At the end of there shift they go home to there nice house and good life while they leave the hood to be the hood and thats ok. The cycle of east palo alto and east menlo will never be stoped all the feds have done is spread the money around to everyone else who was slight weight getting it. Open season if you will instead of making it better now it going to get worse.


Posted by anon
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:17 pm

G town, the "punk police go home to their nice houses and good life after their shifts, while they leave the hood to be the hood and thats ok."

These "punk police" have homes and a good life because they chose not to stay in the hood and sling dope and do nothing for themselves besides join a criminal street gang and terrorize the public. Its the "punk police's" choice not to be losers like the people who chose to be lazy and not find an honest working job and go to school and become educated.





Posted by desean and the Gardners poison
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:56 pm

Bro's Bama and Eric AG are empowering the Feds to make you regret your abuse of hardworking people. the other "families" are goin down.
Your future is eatin the lead you chose to pump on folk.


Posted by gtownlady
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 10, 2009 at 1:06 am

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Posted by gtOwngAL
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 10, 2009 at 1:08 am

plus what do you think is going to happen those feds are gonna split the money and soon those drugs will be back on the streets its the circle of life haha


Posted by gardensgal
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 10, 2009 at 11:28 pm

I'd rather see them use 500 FBI agents towards stopping the flow of drugs period to EPA, rather than hit up all the "families" or "gangs." Lets be real, they were just supplying the demand of drugs in the community - the drug problems of the residents also needs to be addressed. I just can't believe they needed 500 FBI and 18 months of investigating to take these few people down. You can believe that the same amount of drugs are still being sold in EPA as I type this. The drug users need their hits - perhaps this should be addressed? Perhaps the money should go towards getting these people off drugs?

And the media portrayal of this is just crazy. I have lived here my whole life (30 yrs) and have never been terrorized by any gangs. I didn't realize there were 'gangs' here in EPA like the media portray


Posted by Mayfield Child
a resident of Green Acres
on Mar 14, 2009 at 6:59 pm

Please don't post up comments that "if your living in EPA that there is no hope-" My family has lived in EPA for several decades. Life is what you want to make of it- setting goals and finding where to go to persue it...it IS attainable.
My father being the oldest son helped raise his family as there were six children in the family. He (and my grandfather) painted and wallpapered for a living. He was the only son who did not attend Stanford, Berkeley or San Jose State. The younger brothers all got scholarships. They didn't use drugs, so their attention span was attentitive. It was a goal they wanted and they got it. One became a Medical Doctor, one was a Physicist for Lockeed Martin, one became a successful businessman. One became a Fireman and then went into a private business which was lucrative. The one sister married a millionair she met at College. (She was a successful musician and teacher.) The other sister passed away in her twenties, leaving a loving family.
That's a short story of only one family in EPA. I hope some of you who are reading this are not shaking your heads and saying that they were the "lucky ones"... luck eminates from determination. If you want it bad enough, you will get it. That also includes encouraging those that may be able to use some insight. We in the community need not to keep discouraging the youth but put out road maps that may be able to be used successfully in their futures.


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