Now we are beginning to see something that makes sense. Teens who possibly were PACT kids. Sounds like an inside job from the bottom to the almost top.

Better not speculate...that got me into a lot of trouble!

If the people who might have been involved are unknown, How do they know they are teens?

Reaching for straws??? again?

All of Torres alleged stories come from the Palo Alto police.

The latest story is that some unidentified teens told Torres where he could steal something and the teens did what? -- The teens didn't steal anything? the teens stole something?

Just what time of day on Sunday did this encounter with the teens at Rinconada Park occur? Were there activities going on at Lucie Stern Community Center? If so, when did they end and when did all the participants leave? When did the contract janitors arrive and leave?

The Weekly article says Torres "readily admitted" the theft, but the press release says Torres "recently admitted" the theft. Is that a transciption error, or is there another source of the language "readily admitted", since it is attributed to Acting Lt. Sandra Brown, who wrote the press release but did not interview Torres?

I am always suspicious when someone like the theater employees appear to be accused of a crime that they can easily defend themselves against, such as the theft now attributed to Torres, and then the employees are accused of a vague crime that they can't defend themselves against because they don't know what they are being accused of.

Is Sgt. Yore working for the Police Chief or for the City Manager?

I wonder why "perp walk" and all the other people who were so sure that this robbery was an inside job done by Pat, Allison and Richard haven't commented on these new revelations... Where'd everybody go?

> Where did everybody go?

From the article --

Palo Alto police still haven't released any information
about the broader "financial crimes" investigation. Police
consider the burglary a separate but related investigation,
Johnson said
---

When the details of the "financial crimes" are released .. there will plenty of time to say "we told you so" ..

My kids performed in several plays at PACT, and I have to confess, I found Michael and Pat to be very rude and arrogant...anyone else ave this experience, or was it just me?

Oh, please! It's bad enough to hear all the sugary syrupy accolades for these employees. Let's not fill this space with insults, too. Keep personal judgements of them out of it (innocent until proven guilty) at least until the police are done doing their thing.

Tim,

I have not know anybody I ever came across ( I am in my 50's) as irascible, arrogant, rude, insulting, as michael liftin. In the mid-eightys I took a large group of school children to watch a play at PACT. We had about one chaperon for each 6 children (6/7 year olds). As I inquired respectfully, meekly and patiently wether it would be possible to reserve seats together because of the difficulty in managing the group if we were separated, I was met by an innapropriately angry Michael to whom my inquiry had evidently been related to. In front of some of the children with a foaming mouth from which adjectives fell cascade like Mr. Liftin decried my inquiry as an attempt to subvert the PACT policies and I as a someone whose inquires had the response I deserved since I and my group were behaving like elitists who wanted for themselves what nobody else had: assigned seats. As I tried to explain that we were just asking as to the possibility for safety and logistic reasons and all PACT had to do was to say "not possible" he continued his absurd and adjective laden tirade and I turned my back on him, shepparded the children out telling them " this man is out of control, we better go". We returned with our tickets on the play day and queued up for about 4 hours (very civilized making children and chaperons do this...that must be why in the eminent theaters tickets are always assigned ...) and when the doors opened we just couldn't cope with the crowd going forward, so some of us didn't get to seat and see the play...PACT seemed to me then, not so much "managed" but dictated by Liftin.

I didn't relate this incident at the time of Liftin 's death because I thought it inelegant to add a stain to his public CV. But as I wonder why some children were cast over and over again compromising the mission of the PACT if Mr. Liftin irascible demeanor was not a factor.... I certainly didn't want to repeat the experience. The class didn't either.

Guy--I was always in favor of letting the investigation conclude and listening to the ploice's conclusions. That is still the case. The investigation is not yet over.
However. most of my comments were in response to those who were against any kind of investigation and had elevated the PACT staff to sainthood.
the fat lady has not sung yet

After reading the comments here and on subsequent (more recent) PACT case threads I am wondering why my old nemisis, Vic, hasn't jumped up to condemn those expressing views unfriendly to the PAPD or (heaven forbid) "speculating" about the case. He jumped all over me a couple of weeks ago for those "offenses". Seems his wrath is quite selectively applied.

The burglary sounds like a very ordinary, mundane crime. I have yet to read one word about this case that would justify the unique and ill treatment of the PACT staff, which continues without explanation or justification. All that is ever talked about in the Weakly and by the PAPD is the burglary. The rest of the case is a black hole. I saw nothing in the descriptions of Yore's background that would qualify him as a specialist in forensic accounting...if indeed it is a hugely complex financial crime that he's trying to unravel. Remind me again how long it took to figure out Enron.

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