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Armed robbers corner couple at Stanford Shopping Center, escape with jewelry and purse

Group leaves in two vehicles, one of which rams into pickup truck to flee area amid traffic

Five men robbed a couple parked at Stanford Shopping Center where they took jewelry and a purse before escaping in two separate cars on Wednesday afternoon. While stuck in traffic, one of the vehicles rammed into a pickup truck to flee the area, police said.

Three of five men who robbed a couple at Stanford Shopping Center in Palo Alto were seen in a white Dodge Challenger on Aug. 31, 2022. Courtesy Palo Alto Police Department.

Officers responded to the parking lot near Nordstrom at 180 El Camino Real around 2:10 p.m. on a report from a loss prevention officer who believed they saw a car burglary in progress. The incident was reclassified as a strong-arm robbery after one of the victims contacted law enforcement while police made their way to the scene, according to a police press release.

The couple, a man and a woman in their 30s, returned to their car when two white vehicles stopped behind them and blocked their way out of the parking spot, police said.

Two men emerged from one of the two vehicles, a white Audi, and went up to the woman seated in the front passenger seat. One of the men aimed a black handgun at her as the other man snatched her purse. The armed man then demanded her watch and snatched it from her wrist.

Three other armed men with black handguns came out of the second vehicle, a white Dodge Challenger, and went up to the man in the driver's seat as he tried to assist the woman. The encounter turned into a physical struggle during which a member of the trio punched the man's head and took his necklace, police said. The man defended himself as the men unsuccessfully tried to take his watch, and the trio retreated to the Challenger.

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The men in the Audi and Challenger followed each other out the parking lot and headed east on Sand Hill Road, where they landed in traffic east of Arboretum Drive. The man driving the Challenger honked in an effort to get other vehicles to move. When that didn't work, he drove into the rear of a black 1993 Toyota T100 pickup truck, which gave the Challenger and Audi space to drive through, police said.

The Toyota driver, a man in his 30s, didn't report any injuries. His truck sustained minor damage.

The men who robbed the woman were seen in black ski-style masks that completely covered their faces and gloves.

The man who lost his necklace was left with minor injuries to his head and neck, but turned away medical assistance at the scene, according to police. He recalled the trio all wore dark clothes and one of them was about 6 feet tall.

The robbers could face a series of felony charges, such as robbery, conspiracy and assault with a deadly weapon, which stems from running into the pickup truck to leave the area, police said.

Police have released a photo of the Challenger taken from a surveillance system, but there were no "usable" images of the Audi or the robbers available as of Wednesday night, according to the press release. Investigators are looking into whether there are any ties with the robbery and other recent crimes in the area.

Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call the department's 24-hour dispatch center at 650-329-2413. Anonymous tips can be emailed to [email protected] or sent by text message or voicemail to 650-383-8984.

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Armed robbers corner couple at Stanford Shopping Center, escape with jewelry and purse

Group leaves in two vehicles, one of which rams into pickup truck to flee area amid traffic

by Palo Alto Weekly staff / Palo Alto Weekly

Uploaded: Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 11:04 pm

Five men robbed a couple parked at Stanford Shopping Center where they took jewelry and a purse before escaping in two separate cars on Wednesday afternoon. While stuck in traffic, one of the vehicles rammed into a pickup truck to flee the area, police said.

Officers responded to the parking lot near Nordstrom at 180 El Camino Real around 2:10 p.m. on a report from a loss prevention officer who believed they saw a car burglary in progress. The incident was reclassified as a strong-arm robbery after one of the victims contacted law enforcement while police made their way to the scene, according to a police press release.

The couple, a man and a woman in their 30s, returned to their car when two white vehicles stopped behind them and blocked their way out of the parking spot, police said.

Two men emerged from one of the two vehicles, a white Audi, and went up to the woman seated in the front passenger seat. One of the men aimed a black handgun at her as the other man snatched her purse. The armed man then demanded her watch and snatched it from her wrist.

Three other armed men with black handguns came out of the second vehicle, a white Dodge Challenger, and went up to the man in the driver's seat as he tried to assist the woman. The encounter turned into a physical struggle during which a member of the trio punched the man's head and took his necklace, police said. The man defended himself as the men unsuccessfully tried to take his watch, and the trio retreated to the Challenger.

The men in the Audi and Challenger followed each other out the parking lot and headed east on Sand Hill Road, where they landed in traffic east of Arboretum Drive. The man driving the Challenger honked in an effort to get other vehicles to move. When that didn't work, he drove into the rear of a black 1993 Toyota T100 pickup truck, which gave the Challenger and Audi space to drive through, police said.

The Toyota driver, a man in his 30s, didn't report any injuries. His truck sustained minor damage.

The men who robbed the woman were seen in black ski-style masks that completely covered their faces and gloves.

The man who lost his necklace was left with minor injuries to his head and neck, but turned away medical assistance at the scene, according to police. He recalled the trio all wore dark clothes and one of them was about 6 feet tall.

The robbers could face a series of felony charges, such as robbery, conspiracy and assault with a deadly weapon, which stems from running into the pickup truck to leave the area, police said.

Police have released a photo of the Challenger taken from a surveillance system, but there were no "usable" images of the Audi or the robbers available as of Wednesday night, according to the press release. Investigators are looking into whether there are any ties with the robbery and other recent crimes in the area.

Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call the department's 24-hour dispatch center at 650-329-2413. Anonymous tips can be emailed to [email protected] or sent by text message or voicemail to 650-383-8984.

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John
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 1, 2022 at 6:05 am
John, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 6:05 am

Bummer. Whelp, voters wanted to coddle crooks and hammer police. Hope they enjoy the society they created. A populace with common sense might ask how Giuliani fixed these issues in the 90s.


Bystander
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2022 at 7:59 am
Bystander, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 7:59 am

Is this now a weekly occurrence at SSC?


historyguy
Registered user
Portola Valley
on Sep 1, 2022 at 10:45 am
historyguy, Portola Valley
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 10:45 am

When's asked why there are not security cameras on the streets of commercial areas, Supervisor Simitian responded, "people are concerned about their privacy.' What people are concerned about is their safety from crime. I told the Supervisor that there is no legal expectation of 'privacy' on public streets. He did not respond. When do we get smart and do as the Brits have done for years: cameras everywhere in the public areas to identify criminals (and/or their autos).


Julia Anderson
Registered user
Midtown
on Sep 1, 2022 at 10:50 am
Julia Anderson, Midtown
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 10:50 am

@historyguy...
When it comes to public surveillance, both conservatives and liberals fear an Orwellian world but for different reasons.


Consider Your Options.
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2022 at 11:39 am
Consider Your Options. , Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 11:39 am

How awful for this couple. I'm so sorry you had this frightening experience. I hope PAPD gets these thieves and they suffer repercussions for their criminal actions.


Gale Johnson
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 1, 2022 at 11:49 am
Gale Johnson, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 11:49 am

I am an 85 year old man, healthy and mobile, but I am scared to go downtown alone or to the shopping center anymore. I never gave that a thought 10-20 years ago. I'd go alone to enjoy a martini mixed by Maurice at Cafe Fino and then walk to one of the good restaurants for dinner, maybe just next door at Maddelinas. My wife and I used to enjoy going downtown and strolling up and down University Ave. We'd see street musicians and occasionally meet friends and neighbors doing the same thing. There would often be entertainers performing at Lytton Plaza. I'm pretty sure I'd be spotted as an easy target by thugs that I read about too frequently in the local newspapers. Walking beat patrol officers might help but they can't cover University Ave and all the side streets leading to parking lots. Where am I safe??


Online Name
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 1, 2022 at 12:00 pm
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 12:00 pm

Pay attention to the bills working their way to Gov. Newsom's desk, including the one to purge the records of all FELONS, including repeat offenders, after they've served their sentences (if any) and/or finished their times on probation or completed their required courses in anger management, alcoholism etc etc,

In this increasingly dangerous climate, how does this proposed legislation make sense?


Jon Keeling
Registered user
Community Center
on Sep 1, 2022 at 12:07 pm
Jon Keeling, Community Center
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 12:07 pm

@Gale Johnson- Please contact me and we can arrange a time to go for a walk together. Invite your friends.


Lateisha Tolliver
Registered user
East Palo Alto
on Sep 1, 2022 at 1:33 pm
Lateisha Tolliver, East Palo Alto
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 1:33 pm

"Pay attention to the bills working their way to Gov. Newsom's desk, including the one to purge the records of all FELONS, including repeat offenders, after they've served their sentences (if any) and/or finished their times on probation or completed their required courses in anger management, alcoholism etc etc,"

^ This is a step in the right direction as it removes the stigma of being a former felon and will provide for improved job opportunities.

Everyone deserves a second chance and as we all know, African Americans are more prone to be wrongly arrested and convicted than their white counterparts.

By wiping the slate clean, equality is preserved regardless of one's race, color, or creed.


S. Underwood
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 1, 2022 at 2:46 pm
S. Underwood, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 2:46 pm

I am so tired of being told that If you see the pattern, you are just projecting some bias and it's you that are actually the problem. It's not just the right these days that is openly trying to negate reality.


John
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:02 pm
John, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:02 pm

@underwood- I’ve had people tell me the same. After laughing in their smug faces, I’ve replied that pattern recognition and statistical analysis is a mark of intelligence… the real issue is that it hurts their feelings. Their preference to dwell in fantasyland is exactly what brought us to this moment.


kimmy
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:03 pm
kimmy, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:03 pm

This is a daily thing now. Palo Alto/Menlo park is not the same place it was 5yrs ago. Lets get to that voting. Change is needed.


Dee
Registered user
Mountain View
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:36 pm
Dee, Mountain View
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:36 pm

If only cops took DMV laws seriously to cite all vehicles with dark tints, half the crime will automatically go away. lot of these Criminals hide behind dark tinted vehicles making it difficult to know who was driving and catch them. Start enforcing dmv laws and take these dark tint vehicles out of roads for everyone's safety.


Ryan
Registered user
Barron Park
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:49 pm
Ryan, Barron Park
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 4:49 pm
Nayeli
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Midtown
on Sep 1, 2022 at 5:28 pm
Nayeli, Midtown
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 5:28 pm

Are there no better descriptions of these monsters?


Elaine Poon
Registered user
Barron Park
on Sep 1, 2022 at 5:55 pm
Elaine Poon, Barron Park
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 5:55 pm

"Let's get to that voting. Change is needed. " I like that. However, looking ahead to Nov., what or who do we vote for, that will lead to the change needed to restore law and order? I do not see any choice leading to change, although I would like to have that choice. The decriminalization of lawless behavior in the last 10 years by government, backed by a vocal minority who supports that trend, has led to the current state of lawlessness. Could we have gone too far down the slippery slope to reverse the trend? We have two more months before voting. Tell me what to vote for if I want law and order restored. Numbers count. Tell enough people to vote or there is no impact.


Jennifer
Registered user
another community
on Sep 1, 2022 at 8:02 pm
Jennifer, another community
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 8:02 pm

When you're wearing black ski-masks and gloves, it's hard to get a description. I understand defending yourself, but if there are guns involved is it worth it? Jewelry can be replaced. Lives can't.

I hope the couple is okay and the suspects are caught soon. I doubt it's their first rodeo.

Purging the records of convicted felons puts society at risk. The bill doesn't make sense. With the exception of denying parole to the Manson clan, none of his decisions make any sense.


JR
Registered user
Palo Verde
on Sep 1, 2022 at 9:23 pm
JR, Palo Verde
Registered user
on Sep 1, 2022 at 9:23 pm

In my opinion, these criminals should be charged with mayhem and attempted murder. PAPD has a pretty good record of solving cases like this recently. I would bet arrests are made within a week.

Palo Alto is NOT a safe space for armed robbery.


Palo Alto Res
Registered user
Downtown North
on Sep 2, 2022 at 11:03 am
Palo Alto Res, Downtown North
Registered user
on Sep 2, 2022 at 11:03 am

This is directly stemming from the bills passed in California, specifically Prop 47.

How much can you steal in California without going to jail?
Petty theft and shoplifting of any amount not exceeding $950 is classified as a misdemeanor and offenders could face up to 6 months in county jail if found guilty. With a good lawyer and clean history, offenders could avoid jail time with a restitution, probation or fine.


Online Name
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 2, 2022 at 11:11 am
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Sep 2, 2022 at 11:11 am

"Everyone deserves a second chance and as we all know, African Americans are more prone to be wrongly arrested and convicted than their white counterparts.

By wiping the slate clean, equality is preserved regardless of one's race, color, or creed. "

And a third and a fourth and fifth chance.....

Whatever the person's race, color or creed, they deserve to answer for their crimes which are getting more brazen and more common. Did their parents ever teach them responsibility or do they just think they're entitled to keep terrorizing and robbing the rest of us? Shameful.

I'm SO very tired of reading the police/crime reports about the number of crimes committed by criminals who are running around free while awaiting their trials. I'm SO tired of the DA charging violent crimes committed by repeat offenders as misdemeanors.

Where's the personal responsibility???


Joshua
Registered user
Nixon School
on Sep 2, 2022 at 12:06 pm
Joshua , Nixon School
Registered user
on Sep 2, 2022 at 12:06 pm

"Everyone deserves a second chance and as we all know, African Americans are more prone to be wrongly arrested and convicted than their white counterparts.“

Just more progressive delusion/lies.

It’s funny and sad that some Americans either refuse or are simply not intelligent enough to look at statistics and empirical evidence…

Where are all the Indian or Korean kids looting malls or robbing and beating senior citizens? What about smug, privileged white kids? Nope.

The reason why there’s more African Americans in jail is because they commit more crime. FFS Lateisha Tolliver, stop coddling criminals based on their race. You are part of the problem.

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Bystander
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 2, 2022 at 2:05 pm
Bystander, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Sep 2, 2022 at 2:05 pm

Parents who allow their kids to misbehave for whatever reason or whatever excuse are responsible for allowing their kids to misbehave as adults. We need better discipline in homes and in schools. We should not be excusing bad behavior because of any reason. Kids need fathers or male role models in their lives. They need to be punished for bad behavior in the home and at school from when they are toddlers. No excuses for home circumstances, income levels, or any other form of pity party. Likewise parents attempting to get school discipline altered. In times past, a misbehaving child would get punished at school and then again at home when the parents found out. Now a misbehaving child is more likely to be excused, put on medication or awarded the victimhood prize. Not good for the child or for society.

Poor childhood discipline is a cause of criminally minded adults.


Camellia
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 2, 2022 at 4:14 pm
Camellia, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Sep 2, 2022 at 4:14 pm

The Nordstrom parking has security outside all the time. Is the location accurate?


Michele Dauber
Registered user
Barron Park
on Sep 2, 2022 at 7:21 pm
Michele Dauber, Barron Park
Registered user
on Sep 2, 2022 at 7:21 pm

Five armed men in two highly conspicuous white cars honking and smashing stuck in traffic. And still the Palo Alto police failed to catch them. Were the cops off harassing an old woman having stroke symptoms and too busy to show up?


Roberta Beckham
Registered user
Los Altos
on Sep 3, 2022 at 7:06 am
Roberta Beckham, Los Altos
Registered user
on Sep 3, 2022 at 7:06 am

Why didn't the PAPD utilize a police helicopter to track the assailants?

The Los Altos police uses helicopters.


John
Registered user
Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 3, 2022 at 7:50 am
John, Adobe-Meadow
Registered user
on Sep 3, 2022 at 7:50 am

Police, like highly trained doctors and your fire department, cannot distinguish stroke, from drug OD, from mental illness solely based upon 2 minutes of observation in the street. Police also can’t wave their hands and “stop” armed felons in a vehicle without a lot of blood. You’d cry about that too. Folks, your relatively underpaid (for the the Bay) cops aren’t magic and demanding magic from them makes you appear as unreasonable and ignorant as you are.


Bill Liscomb
Registered user
Barron Park
on Sep 3, 2022 at 8:28 am
Bill Liscomb, Barron Park
Registered user
on Sep 3, 2022 at 8:28 am

John/Adobe-Meadow brought up a good point.

TV and movies have given the general populace a misconception of the local police and their actual abilities to protect the public from crime.

Most police departments and their officers are nowhere near their counterparts on film and should not be expected to demonstrate the same amount of expertise and bravado.


Annette
Registered user
College Terrace
on Sep 3, 2022 at 10:58 am
Annette, College Terrace
Registered user
on Sep 3, 2022 at 10:58 am

What's the City Manager's plan for addressing the increasing crime here? Resident concerns don't seem to be a high priority, but money may provide motivation for corrective action such as hiring more police, installing cameras, pressuring to make certain that charges are filed, etc. Since the City relies on sales tax revenue from the Stanford Shopping it is in the City Manager's best interest to do everything in his power to restore safety there. And downtown. Gale Johnson should be able to stroll the "Main Street" of his hometown without worrying about getting mugged (or worse).

The City Manager's comments at the next CC meeting should include a status report on this. That would be much more meaningful than the usual "fluff" report about activities and events that can be learned about myriad other ways.


Julie Prescott
Registered user
Community Center
on Sep 3, 2022 at 2:14 pm
Julie Prescott, Community Center
Registered user
on Sep 3, 2022 at 2:14 pm

One pre-emptive measure against these continued thefts might be for the police (or security staff personnel) to check people leaving the shopping center parking lot for misappropriated goods...kind of like they when leaving Costco. It would also provide an opportunity to confirm vehicle ownership and any prior arrests or outstanding bench warrants.

Why not nip things in the bud rather than writing another unresolved police report?


Bryan Roberts
Registered user
Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Sep 4, 2022 at 9:45 am
Bryan Roberts, Leland Manor/Garland Drive
Registered user
on Sep 4, 2022 at 9:45 am

Armed security guards at the entrances/exits of larger high-end retail stores might serve as a deterrent but will not stop store thefts altogether.

Having armed security guards in the parking lots is another measure that should be considered to protect customers entering and leaving their vehicles.


john_alderman
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 5, 2022 at 6:03 pm
john_alderman, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 5, 2022 at 6:03 pm

@Lateisha Tolliver "Pay attention to the bills working their way to Gov. Newsom's desk, including the one to purge the records of all FELONS, including repeat offenders [...] By wiping the slate clean, equality is preserved regardless of one's race, color, or creed.

OMG, that is such a awful idea, and will be terrible for black americans. Can you not see the unintended consequences it creates?

What this law actually does is make it impossible to know who DOESN'T have a conviction. If you don't want to hire a felon, you'd want to avoid hiring black men because they have the highest felony conviction rate. The majority of law abiding black citizens will have to sit in the same risk pool - it hurts them most.


Rochelle Waters
Registered user
another community
on Sep 6, 2022 at 7:59 am
Rochelle Waters, another community
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2022 at 7:59 am

"If you don't want to hire a felon, you'd want to avoid hiring black men because they have the highest felony conviction rate."

^ The highest felony conviction rate among WHOM...the entire U.S. population or as a separate ethnic group?

Earth to john_alderman...there are more white convicts in the United States than African Americans because there are more white people.

Statistics are misleading and can often be misconstrued depending on the viewpoint.

A white ex-convict is no different than a black ex-convict and if criminal records of both were expunged, the hiring process would most likely favor the white applicant since white employers do most of the hiring and are inherently racist or rather 'predisposed' to hire a white applicant over a black applicant if given the choice.

Governor Newsom is a true progressive whose hands are often tied by the repressive and conservative social climate of the day.

Fortunately California is a more moderate state compared to others with larger pockets of red zones inhabited by racists and insurrectionists.


Larry Johnson
Registered user
another community
on Sep 6, 2022 at 8:09 am
Larry Johnson, another community
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2022 at 8:09 am

@john_alderman...

We do not need any more 'Scarlet Letters' in America and I applaud this bill to expunge felony convictions as it is no different than an executive pardon oftentimes granted to convicted felons by presidents.

Dishonorable Discharges from the U.S. military should also be exempt from the job application process.


Anonymous
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Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 6, 2022 at 12:13 pm
Anonymous, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2022 at 12:13 pm

I think the small number of recidivist criminals should be locked up for public safety. Sad, but true.


Edith Clark
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 6, 2022 at 2:52 pm
Edith Clark, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2022 at 2:52 pm

"The majority of law abiding black citizens will have to sit in the same risk pool - it hurts them most."

@john_alderman

Even if their criminal records were sealed, wouldn't most job interviewers be able to tell whether an applicant was black or white during an in-personal interview session?


john_alderman
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 8, 2022 at 4:33 pm
john_alderman, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 8, 2022 at 4:33 pm

@Rochelle Waters - Sad to say that you misunderstand the statistics. :( If you are judging the likelihood of an individual being a felon, the rate is what matters not the absolute number.

Imagine there are 100 green people, and all 100 are felons, and there are 1 million purple people, and 100,000 are felons. There are a thousand times more purple felons than green felons, but if you have to choose between between two job applicants, one green and one purple, you would be better off choosing purple. 100% chance the green is a felon, and only 10% chance purple is a felon (even though there are vastly more purple felons).


john_alderman
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 8, 2022 at 4:39 pm
john_alderman, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 8, 2022 at 4:39 pm

@Edith Clark - "Even if their criminal records were sealed, wouldn't most job interviewers be able to tell whether an applicant was black or white during an in-personal interview session?"

That's my point. If the records are unsealed, you don't care what the race of the applicant is, you care about what their actual criminal record is. And most people, regardless of race, are not convicted felons.

If the records are sealed, and you care about criminal records, you are going to use other heuristics, consciously or unconsciously, to evaluate the potential criminality of the interviewee. This will inadvertently penalize good, law abiding people who unfortunately match higher risk groups.


Jennifer
Registered user
another community
on Sep 8, 2022 at 4:57 pm
Jennifer, another community
Registered user
on Sep 8, 2022 at 4:57 pm

A convicted felon is a convicted felon. Race is irrelevant. That being said, certain races (per capita) commit a higher percentage of crimes. Asians commit the least, followed by whites, then Hispanics and then blacks. I'm not sure where Native Americans fit in, but it doesn't really matter.

There are stats that verify this. It can easily be googled.


Harrison Peters
Registered user
Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Sep 9, 2022 at 7:51 am
Harrison Peters, Leland Manor/Garland Drive
Registered user
on Sep 9, 2022 at 7:51 am

Taking responsibility for one's own actions is the first step towards rehabilitation and adulthood.

Perhaps there is a compromise...on the first conviction and depending upon the nature of the crime, a judge could offer expungement providing that certain post-conviction stipulations are met.

Violent crimes involving the use of firearms along with murder and rape, should remain on record but lesser offenses like non-violent burglary, petty/grandtheft and drug possession could easily be pardoned providing probation/parole requirements are fulfilled.


Jason Castelano
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 10, 2022 at 7:41 am
Jason Castelano, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Sep 10, 2022 at 7:41 am

Not all felonies are violent crimes and should be viewed within that context.


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