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Guest Opinion: Please open Foothills Park to all

More than 90 community leaders signed a letter to the Palo Alto City Council seeking it abolish a decades-old law that limits Foothills Park access to city residents. Photo by Veronica Weber.

As a member of the Lee family who owned the property that became Foothills Park and as a park ranger who worked there for seven years, I hope to show you, the residents of Palo Alto, why the current exclusionary admission policy must change.

For 30 years, I — along with four generations of 15 cousins and various other relatives — lived on a unique family compound in the Palo Alto foothills we called Boronda Farm.

Geoff Paulsen is a board member of Canopy who lives in Cupertino. Courtesy Geoff Paulsen.

My grandmother Dorothy Lee, a lover of open space, rescued the land that is now Foothills Park from becoming a development that would have turned the Palo Alto hills into a suburban landscape with no parks or trails for the public. She was a force to be reckoned with and put her foot down with my grandfather Dr. Russel Lee (founder of PAMF) and refused to sell her share to developers in the 1950s. They ended up giving about 1,000 of the park's 1,400 acres to the city for $1,000 per acre. Palo Alto voters eventually passed a measure to create the park, including a provision that the park be for their exclusive use. This exclusionary policy was never my grandmother's intent.

Neighboring cities (Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills) were approached and asked to help purchase land for the park, but they, being less than five years old and poorly funded, declined. Palo Alto was in the unique financial position to purchase the property because it incorporated early enough to buy into income-generating hydroelectric and water projects in the Sierra Foothills.

I worked as a ranger at the park for seven years, and to my dismay, I frequently was required to turn away eager potential visitors. I grew up on Boronda Farm, which was incorporated into Foothills Park, and was saddened that the greater public could not enjoy my childhood home. I saw the anger and disappointment on the faces of the thousands I turned away. Families could not eat their picnics on the many picnic tables. Couples could not enjoy the trails. Every look I received underscored my desire to change this policy.

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As my wife and I volunteered with children from East Palo Alto, I realized that they were being deprived of opportunities to be educated about the natural world. On my days off, I took less privileged children on hikes in Foothills Park, and if the entrance policy had been different, they also could have gone on their own with their families. The staff of Palo Alto's Division of Parks and Open Space are dedicated to helping people understand nature. Opening Foothills Park will provide more opportunities for them to do so.

During my time working at Foothills Park, some persons close to me experienced mental health crises. Although a walk in the park will not cure an acute mental health episode, studies have shown that spending time in a beautiful outdoor setting is beneficial to one's mental health. During stressful times, like the one we are experiencing now with this pandemic, opening Foothills Park will help more people benefit from the healing powers of nature.

A common myth about the environment

Visitors do not cause the majority of environmental damage, since most of them use a very small part of the park.

As a park ranger, I learned that it was the park's construction and operation — not its visitors — that have done most of the environmental damage:

• Soil and rock from a ridge were bulldozed away and used to fill a valley to make a shallow lake, which leaked. During a drought, it was secretly filled with Yosemite water from Hetch Hetchy Reservoir at night, so no one would see.

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• A valley with magnificent bay trees was overwatered, killing the trees. During a drought, it was "watered" with green dye from a former military tanker truck.

• A huge concrete water tank up on Page Mill Road was emptied rapidly and recklessly, creating a huge hillside erosion scar, which is now hidden by poison oak but continues to threaten downstream salmon habitat with silt.

• As the one responsible for re-introducing controlled burns to the park, I saw how excluding these burns modified the ecology and created wildfire hazards.

The time for change is now

When the citizens of Palo Alto voted to buy Foothills Park in 1959, lynching was still a frequent practice in the United States. People of color had no protection under the Civil Rights Act, nor were they covered by the Voting Rights Act. The poor and elderly had little access to health care, and the disabled had no protection under the Americans With Disabilities Act. Times have dramatically changed in my lifetime.

As a child, I found a Native American grinding pestle on Boronda Farm. When I hold that pestle, I think about how Foothills Park's original habitants were forced off the land. This followed the same pattern of injustice as when African Americans were told by Realtors that there were no homes available in Palo Alto. Injustice follows injustice.

We have a responsibility to exercise justice. The time is now — there is an outcry in our country for justice, as seen every day over the past three weeks in the protests for Black Lives Matter. To reference Dr. Martin Luther King, the long arc of the moral universe is bending toward justice.

Please stand with the many community leaders who are working to break an unjust pattern of the past. Please encourage the Palo Alto City Council to open Foothills Park to the diverse Bay Area community.

Geoff Paulsen is a board member of Canopy who lives in Cupertino. You can email him at geoffpaulsen@yahoo.com.

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Guest Opinion: Please open Foothills Park to all

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Uploaded: Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 6:48 am
Updated: Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:40 am

As a member of the Lee family who owned the property that became Foothills Park and as a park ranger who worked there for seven years, I hope to show you, the residents of Palo Alto, why the current exclusionary admission policy must change.

For 30 years, I — along with four generations of 15 cousins and various other relatives — lived on a unique family compound in the Palo Alto foothills we called Boronda Farm.

My grandmother Dorothy Lee, a lover of open space, rescued the land that is now Foothills Park from becoming a development that would have turned the Palo Alto hills into a suburban landscape with no parks or trails for the public. She was a force to be reckoned with and put her foot down with my grandfather Dr. Russel Lee (founder of PAMF) and refused to sell her share to developers in the 1950s. They ended up giving about 1,000 of the park's 1,400 acres to the city for $1,000 per acre. Palo Alto voters eventually passed a measure to create the park, including a provision that the park be for their exclusive use. This exclusionary policy was never my grandmother's intent.

Neighboring cities (Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills) were approached and asked to help purchase land for the park, but they, being less than five years old and poorly funded, declined. Palo Alto was in the unique financial position to purchase the property because it incorporated early enough to buy into income-generating hydroelectric and water projects in the Sierra Foothills.

I worked as a ranger at the park for seven years, and to my dismay, I frequently was required to turn away eager potential visitors. I grew up on Boronda Farm, which was incorporated into Foothills Park, and was saddened that the greater public could not enjoy my childhood home. I saw the anger and disappointment on the faces of the thousands I turned away. Families could not eat their picnics on the many picnic tables. Couples could not enjoy the trails. Every look I received underscored my desire to change this policy.

As my wife and I volunteered with children from East Palo Alto, I realized that they were being deprived of opportunities to be educated about the natural world. On my days off, I took less privileged children on hikes in Foothills Park, and if the entrance policy had been different, they also could have gone on their own with their families. The staff of Palo Alto's Division of Parks and Open Space are dedicated to helping people understand nature. Opening Foothills Park will provide more opportunities for them to do so.

During my time working at Foothills Park, some persons close to me experienced mental health crises. Although a walk in the park will not cure an acute mental health episode, studies have shown that spending time in a beautiful outdoor setting is beneficial to one's mental health. During stressful times, like the one we are experiencing now with this pandemic, opening Foothills Park will help more people benefit from the healing powers of nature.

Visitors do not cause the majority of environmental damage, since most of them use a very small part of the park.

As a park ranger, I learned that it was the park's construction and operation — not its visitors — that have done most of the environmental damage:

• Soil and rock from a ridge were bulldozed away and used to fill a valley to make a shallow lake, which leaked. During a drought, it was secretly filled with Yosemite water from Hetch Hetchy Reservoir at night, so no one would see.

• A valley with magnificent bay trees was overwatered, killing the trees. During a drought, it was "watered" with green dye from a former military tanker truck.

• A huge concrete water tank up on Page Mill Road was emptied rapidly and recklessly, creating a huge hillside erosion scar, which is now hidden by poison oak but continues to threaten downstream salmon habitat with silt.

• As the one responsible for re-introducing controlled burns to the park, I saw how excluding these burns modified the ecology and created wildfire hazards.

When the citizens of Palo Alto voted to buy Foothills Park in 1959, lynching was still a frequent practice in the United States. People of color had no protection under the Civil Rights Act, nor were they covered by the Voting Rights Act. The poor and elderly had little access to health care, and the disabled had no protection under the Americans With Disabilities Act. Times have dramatically changed in my lifetime.

As a child, I found a Native American grinding pestle on Boronda Farm. When I hold that pestle, I think about how Foothills Park's original habitants were forced off the land. This followed the same pattern of injustice as when African Americans were told by Realtors that there were no homes available in Palo Alto. Injustice follows injustice.

We have a responsibility to exercise justice. The time is now — there is an outcry in our country for justice, as seen every day over the past three weeks in the protests for Black Lives Matter. To reference Dr. Martin Luther King, the long arc of the moral universe is bending toward justice.

Please stand with the many community leaders who are working to break an unjust pattern of the past. Please encourage the Palo Alto City Council to open Foothills Park to the diverse Bay Area community.

Geoff Paulsen is a board member of Canopy who lives in Cupertino. You can email him at geoffpaulsen@yahoo.com.

Comments

Karen Peterson Willard
Barron Park
on Jun 19, 2020 at 7:58 am
Karen Peterson Willard, Barron Park
on Jun 19, 2020 at 7:58 am
11 people like this

I agree 100% with Geoff Paulson, I was lucky to have been one of his classmates at Gunn High School. I grow up in Barron Park and even though my drivers license said Palo Alto we were excluded from going to Foothill Park because Barron Park actually was considered county as it was not annexed into Palo ALto until 1975. We managed to still get in but on occasion we got turned away at the gate. It is sad that Palo Alto has chosen to keep Foothill Park exclusive for it's residents only. It is truly a wonderful and special place. I would gladly pay an entrance fee. Please open the park to all. As Geoff stated "This exclusionary policy was never my grandmother's intent"


JR
Palo Verde
on Jun 19, 2020 at 8:07 am
JR, Palo Verde
on Jun 19, 2020 at 8:07 am
77 people like this

The current policy is not exclusionary, it is inclusive to all Palo Alto residents. Palo Alto is a diverse city with all races / incomes, unlike Los Altos Hills and other surrounding cities that have 1 acre+ minimum parcel sizes and no affordable housing. Keep Foothills for Palo Alto, not for rich Los Altos Hills neighbors.

Also it strikes me as interesting that the Lee family sold the property to Palo Alto for $1.3 million over 50 years ago, now they feel they should have a say in how the property is used. That's not how it works. The Lee family could have opened their own park rather than selling to Palo Alto for a giant sum and turned it into a park managed by them, using whatever admission rules they chose. They did not do that, they cashed out at the expense of the Palo Alto taxpayer. Now they want to dictate admission terms to the park. No chance.


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2020 at 9:14 am
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2020 at 9:14 am
26 people like this

As a frequent visitor to the park for a long time, I have seen that it is well used and question how they know the number of visitors since I rarely see anyone at the gate, even at weekends until at least mid morning when there are many people coming in during the week and earlier than the rangers are there at weekends.

I really enjoy seeing the deer, the turkeys, the rabbits, hearing the birdsong, enjoy all the flowers in spring and watching the rise and fall of the creeks. I see family groups, I see people celebrating birthdays, I see mens groups, womens groups, scouting groups, sitting in groups in the meadow or around a picnic table, all respecting the lore of nature interaction. I see people from all groups as diverse as I do anywhere else I hike.

But I do know that there are no cell signals in the park. I know that if there were an emergency it would be hard to alert all parkgoers of such emergency. With one exit to the road and one road which is heavily used by bikes too much traffic leaving Foothills while emergency vehicles were coming up the hill would be a disaster in the making.

A cap on the number of cars in the park at any one time makes sense. We must keep the status quo in respect to the numbers of people in the park. I would suggest a reservation plus per car charge for all non-residents who wish to use the park, while allowing PA residents access priority.

So to sum up my 2 points. First, it is well used and we do not need to crowd out the nature and secondly we have to look at what might need to be done in the case of a fire or earthquake?


Rebecca Eisenberg
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 19, 2020 at 9:56 am
Rebecca Eisenberg, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 19, 2020 at 9:56 am
5 people like this

Geoff, thank you for your informative and articulate article.

Of course we should listen to you, and open the Park.

I also would like to know what happened in response to the environmental damage you described. Was the responsible party the City of Palo Alto? If so, Palo Alto owes it to your family to our community -- our *greater* community -- to remedy what we can.

Thank you again.


Me 2
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 19, 2020 at 10:19 am
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 19, 2020 at 10:19 am
51 people like this

"They ended up giving about 1,000 of the park's 1,400 acres to the city for $1,000 per acre."

That's not "giving." That's selling.


pl
College Terrace
on Jun 19, 2020 at 10:56 am
pl, College Terrace
on Jun 19, 2020 at 10:56 am
47 people like this

It's really interesting how caucasians deal with their guilt by acting against their own interests and the interest of others. Perhaps the whites backing this need to work through some issues in therapy about racism, guilt and privilege?

Palo Alto has a large non-white population and I would bet will it be majority nonwhite in the next few years. The park is already totally ruined due to an influx of people after changes COVID has brought to this world. There is nothing at all racist about Foothill's policy, the only problem is with the psychological issues of privileged and guilty whites. Adding more crowds of people to this (formally) quiet and beautiful park would really not help anyone except some people sense of personal misplaced guilt and others racial entitlement.


Dan
Midtown
on Jun 19, 2020 at 3:57 pm
Dan, Midtown
on Jun 19, 2020 at 3:57 pm
62 people like this

Please, if changing this type of long standing policy, place it on a future ballot. If the majority of residents favor the change, then so be it. No need to push changes without consideration of the larger set of issues ... budget?, maintenance?, liability?, conservation?. Don't let a vocal minority set city policy.


Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 19, 2020 at 4:45 pm
Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 19, 2020 at 4:45 pm
30 people like this

I read the article and it introduced some concerns. The property that the Lee family lived on has been logistically changed by bull dozing hills to create the lake - which leaks. And he spoke to mismanagement of the property regarding over watering and dying trees. Trees are what holds the land together. Why he picked the worse case issues regarding liability is his choice. However there are homes directly below which in a big earthquake may get a whole hill falling on them.

So he now lives in Cupertino and thinks he is directing city policy from his perch in another city that is not even contingent to FHP. But he does get Rancho San Antonio in the deal - it is in Cupertino.

I am reading the Enjoy catalog put out by Palo Alto. The city puts on a great set of programs to address every child and adult desire for entertainment which a city can provide. The city has a huge listing of parks. Rinconada and FH require reservations for large groups. The programs provided appear to be residents first, then open to other to fill in the required number of spaces. The only exception is FHP. Which the more we now know the more that makes sense.

Rebecca - you are suppose to be a lawyer. The position you just expressed makes no sense. It is backwards. The family sold the property to the city - that is the end of their legal relationship to the property. They are done. We are now the legal insurer of what ever happens up there. The city is on the hook now for any issues regarding liability for that property. The policy regrading the park use is clearly stated in the Enjoy catalog - page 55 and makes perfect sense. That is the legal starting point for the transactions regarding that property.

And any resident is fully capable to invite up to 15 guests. So residents - invite away. I am sure that who ever the initial complainers are have friends they can come in with - if they will invite you and pay for you.

And the author appears to be a paid ranger so his ability to be on the property is his job.


No, PA must bear full $ responsibility
Los Altos Hills
on Jun 19, 2020 at 4:55 pm
No, PA must bear full $ responsibility, Los Altos Hills
on Jun 19, 2020 at 4:55 pm
4 people like this

Do NOT throw the future costs of that train wreck of a Park.
Now, after generations, PA wants to pass on the costs to the excluded tax payers.

There is nothing in FH park that isn't available within a 15 min drive from the front gate, AND they've not been "created' and sanitized to death like FHP.If they opened it, I would not use it. I've been there and have seen all it has to offer. It-is-not-unique.
PA can keep it as well as keeping the costs.


Rich Lee
another community
on Jun 21, 2020 at 9:14 am
Rich Lee, another community
on Jun 21, 2020 at 9:14 am
7 people like this

My cousin Geoff Paulsen has a point, despite his emphasis on the social justice thing. If they open the park to non-residents, charge an appropriate fee and have someone always at the gate to collect those fees it might work. If, like in the national parks they do this to track overall use, and if it gets too crowded, turn people away (including residents)then the actual impact will be the same, or possibly less. I don't go there on weekends, but have ridden my bike through numerous times on weekday afternoons and have never seen more than 30 cars in the entire park from Vista Hill to the HQ.

Speaking of cars, have they extended the free Palo Alto shuttle buses (with multi-bike racks)to the Park? That would reduce some of the car/bike congestion and near-misses on lower Page Mill Rd. While they are at it, continue the shuttle up to Montebello & Los Trancos open space lots to reduce the number of drivers who can't cope with the 2000' of steepness and (over 100) curves on Page Mill Rd......once people are riding buses again.

Regarding the wildfire issue. Take the course and get certified in wildland fire risk assessment and you will notice that there are plenty of safe spaces in Foothill Park that are ideal to "shelter in place" as you watch all the houses in Los Altos Hills spread a fire from one home to the next. You are better off there than trying to escape down Page Mill Rd. with all the other panicked drivers. FYI, if you must escape there is an alternate route that runs through the Arrillaga property out to Los Trancos Rd. that can be opened in an emergency.

Yes, the issue with the land and the Lee Family is "done" and we are no longer entitled to anything regarding Foothill Park. That doesn't negate the connection some of us have with the land for over 60 years. Regardless of whether it is opened to us outsiders, I would like to see my grandmother's name attached to it. We have Ester Clark Park, Pearson-Arastradero Preserve, why not "Dorothy Lee-Foothills Park/Preserve"? If it were not for her, the place would be another version of Los Alto Hills and none of us would have the place to enjoy or argue over.

Rich Lee M.D.
Founder/Medical Director, Hometown Healthcare
Medical Director, South Skyline Emergency Preparedness Organization


PA Grandmother
Mayfield
on Jun 21, 2020 at 9:16 am
PA Grandmother, Mayfield
on Jun 21, 2020 at 9:16 am
50 people like this

I'm a little confused here. Say I want to buy a fixer-upper home, and I invite friends to share in the expenses, labor, and profits. The friends decline. So I fix it up by myself.

They can't come running back later demanding that I share the lovely home I've created.

I might - if I were feeling magnanimous - choose to allow them to share for a reasonable fee to offset expenses, but I'd want to consult with my heirs and get their opinion.

This is a voter issue, and shouldn't be up for debate by non-residents who have no stake in the park.


@PA Grandmother
another community
on Jun 21, 2020 at 11:48 am
@PA Grandmother, another community
on Jun 21, 2020 at 11:48 am
6 people like this

Do you never visit another city's park or facilities, should they tell you the story you told when you try?


@@Pa Grandmother
Mayfield
on Jun 21, 2020 at 1:33 pm
@@Pa Grandmother, Mayfield
on Jun 21, 2020 at 1:33 pm
7 people like this

It would not occur to me to try to crash private facilities in the first place, whether it's a swimming pool, country club, or retail members-only store.


Resident
St. Claire Gardens
on Jun 21, 2020 at 3:14 pm
Resident, St. Claire Gardens
on Jun 21, 2020 at 3:14 pm
7 people like this

I've lived in Palo Alto for 50 years, and in all that time, I have rarely seen Foothills Park anything close to being crowded -- not even in the past two months. I've been there on lovely Saturday afternoons in August and seen it all but deserted. I have been asked to show my proof of residence only a few times over the years. I have never really understood why it isn't open to everyone-- maybe with a small entrance fee, to cover the cost of a ranger to cap the number of cars allowed in, just in case people suddenly start showing up!

I do agree with the comment that improved cell phone service is advisable, in case of emergencies.


Mashhood Rassam
Greenmeadow
on Jun 22, 2020 at 7:53 am
Mashhood Rassam, Greenmeadow
on Jun 22, 2020 at 7:53 am
26 people like this

My understanding is that Palo Alto has repeatedly asked other towns to contribute to the upkeep of Foothills Park, in exchange for letting their residents used it. Those other towns have refused to pay for the upkeep of the Park. If they refuse to share the responsibility for the Park's upkeep, then their residents should not be able to use the Park. Of course, the Park should be opened up to programs that serve underprivileged children.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 22, 2020 at 9:30 am
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 22, 2020 at 9:30 am
36 people like this

Posted by Resident, a resident of St. Claire Gardens

>> I've lived in Palo Alto for 50 years, and in all that time, I have rarely seen Foothills Park anything close to being crowded -- not even in the past two months.

I'm a frequent user of the park, and, my experience is completely opposite to yours. What are the odds?

>> I've been there on lovely Saturday afternoons in August and seen it all but deserted.

You mean two years ago when visibility was 100 yards because of smoke, and fire danger was extreme. It was almost deserted, for good reason. But, not because of lack of demand. 15-20 years ago, there were times when the park was "underutilized", but, in recent years, there have been lots of people, even on weekday mornings.

>> maybe with a small entrance fee, to cover the cost of a ranger to cap the number of cars allowed in, just in case people suddenly start showing up!

When we were charging a fee, the rangers said they hated sitting there and collecting the fee all day every day. And, my understanding at the time was that the revenue collected did not cover the cost of collecting it.

In any case, the park is extremely busy on weekends now, with cars filling the upper lots (always room down at the bottom unless there is a special event, which, COVID-19, there isn't now) and cars parking along the main road (usually wrong-way) by the lake-- which, I don't understand, because there is usually room in the lot just up towards the hilltop.

Regardless, the park was busy before COVID-19, and, now, on a Saturday afternoon, they really need to get the cars under control and parking correctly.

On the trails, you are seldom out of shouting distance from the next party. But, I like the one-way trail setup on the Los Trancos trail; it generally keeps family groups separated from each other most of the time.

So, no, there isn't extra room in the park any more.


eyeswideopen
Professorville
on Jun 22, 2020 at 10:47 am
eyeswideopen, Professorville
on Jun 22, 2020 at 10:47 am
21 people like this

If we want a ranger nightmare and another San Antonio Reserve situation with crowds, sure, open it up on weekends and regret it. I say keep open to all mid-week as now and closed to all but Palo Alto Residents on weekends. It is a wild park and the environment cannot take crowds--PA residents or otherwise. Monitoring this will be impossible without lots more money spent to do it.
This knee jerk reaction to the current situation does not take into account the natural world. While not a "nature reserve", the park is also not a typical city park--the animals and plants are important here.


Midtown Local
Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:15 am
Midtown Local, Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:15 am
8 people like this

The exclusionary policy of Foothills Park is an embarrassment. What other city or county park around here excludes non-residents? It's well past time to put aside the ancient history of who originally funded the park and become as welcoming as ALL of the other parks in the area are. Crowd control is a detail that can be handled in a variety of ways; it's hardly a showstopper once we decide to do the right thing.


Lee Thé
Greenmeadow
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:32 am
Lee Thé, Greenmeadow
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:32 am
19 people like this

The demand that Foothills Park be opened to nonresidents represents the cream of Palo Alto's virtue-signaling crop. (along with a descendant of the family that sold it to Palo Alto for a fat profit in today's dollars) How dare Palo Altans grind our less-affluent neighbors under our collective boot heel? It's an outrage!
Really? Have any surrounding towns been crying salty tears over this issue? Have any of them volunteered to chip in on FHP's maintenance costs in exchange for their residents being admitted? Los Altos? Los Altos Hills? Mountain View? Menlo Park? East Palo Alto?

I'm hearing crickets. And note that East Palo Alto is rapidly gentrifying. Average home price there is nearly a million dollars, and that's for small homes.

But sure, let's make the rounds again and ask. We could give EPA a discount if that makes you feel better. Even though no would would chip in back in the day, they certainly can make up for it now.

Meanwhile none of the "throw it open" proponents seem to be aware of the fact that Palo Alto built many other parks—more than our neighboring towns--and every one of them is open to one and all, except for Foothills Park.
Have you ever visited, say, Mitchell Park in the summer? It's chock full o' folks from neighboring towns, hogging the barbecue pits and tables.

The nearby parks that are most like Foothills are Huddart and Sanborn. Both charge a nominal $6 per car fee to use the park and they let anyone in. That's another option, and it's a common one. Nearly all of California's state parks charge a similar day use fee. That’ll help keep up the park, let us find out who's using it when and how much, and it will salve the exquisitely refined consciences of Palo Alto’s moral elite.

But if you really want to do something for our less affluent neighbors, unify the Palo Alto Unified School District with that of East Palo Alto.

Any takers? Or do you prefer minor egalitarian symbolism?


What Will They Do Next
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:56 am
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:56 am
37 people like this

Put it on the ballot and let the tax paying citizens of Palo Alto decide. The voters, not the City Council should have the final say so on this issue. No one will suffer if the park remains exclusive to residents.


rsmithjr
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 22, 2020 at 12:25 pm
rsmithjr, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 22, 2020 at 12:25 pm
7 people like this

I have visited many parks in other communities. For example, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Monterey, San Jose. No one turns me away because I live in Palo Alto.

If nothing else, ending this exclusionary policy shows that Palo Alto is willing to share along with others.


Midtown Resident
Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm
Midtown Resident, Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 12:47 pm
20 people like this

Foothills Park is a relatively pristine environment and serves as a preserve for wildlife of all sizes from butterflies to mountain lions, as well as plants ranging from oaks hundreds of years old to many varieties of wildflowers, lichens, fungi, etc. The park is not underused by these organisms, and every human footstep and presence, every auto driving around, every dog takes a toll. Opening up the park to more visitors must be carefully thought out and managed in a fair way. It's absolutely not OK simply to open the gates and let large numbers of folks overrun the park, no matter what the political pressure.


Rose
Mayfield
on Jun 22, 2020 at 12:55 pm
Rose, Mayfield
on Jun 22, 2020 at 12:55 pm
27 people like this

There are plenty of parks just up Page Mill Road and they are free. There is no lack of opportunity to enjoy nature nearby — from state parks to county parks to open space districts. Keep Foothills Park for the very diverse Palo Alto citizens whose tax dollars maintain it.


voter
College Terrace
on Jun 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm
voter, College Terrace
on Jun 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm
22 people like this

Put it to a vote (like in a democracy) and see what Palo Alto residents think about donating their park. I bet you would be surprised


NatureBoy
Crescent Park
on Jun 22, 2020 at 1:13 pm
NatureBoy, Crescent Park
on Jun 22, 2020 at 1:13 pm
13 people like this

Personally, I'd rather see Foothills Park closed to everyone, including Palo Altans, than opened to everyone.

The death of our environment is not a joke. Nor is the decimation of nature something we can just keep pushing and pushing on forever. Look at some maps that show development over time. Nature will be lucky if it is able to survive with humans encroaching and keeping taking or killing bits and pieces of it over the future.

If anything we should be tearing down our over-encroachment and making new parks allowing nature to come back.


mjc
College Terrace
on Jun 22, 2020 at 1:24 pm
mjc, College Terrace
on Jun 22, 2020 at 1:24 pm
5 people like this

During the week the entrance gate to Foothill Park is not staffed and entrance is on the honor system. If Palo Alto were to open Foothill Park to non-residents during the week are proponents of opening the park to non-residents for a visitor fee recommending that there would still be no need to staff the entrance gate to check cars in? Or are they assuming that entrance fees will cover the cost of full-time staffing? And if so, how much will each will Palo Alto charge each visitor to cover that cost? ?

Or are proponents assuming that Palo Altans will cover any additional cost of staffing the entrance gate full time so they can visit have access to Foothill Park? Have proponents worked out how much this will cost Palo Altons?

With current budget cuts does adding the cost for non-residents to have access to the park make sense when the city manager is recommending budgets cuts which will reduce the fire and EMT response time?


Sarah Gage
another community
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Sarah Gage, another community
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:02 pm
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I grew up in the area, and I agree with Geoff. Palo Alto's other parks are open to the public, are they not?


EPA, yes. Los Altos Hills and Portola Valley, no.
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:29 pm
EPA, yes. Los Altos Hills and Portola Valley, no., Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:29 pm
6 people like this

I have no problem offering access to East Palo Alto residents. I DO have a problem offering it to Los Altos Hills and Portola Valley who are no longer young communities. They are very wealthy and perfectly able now to help with the maintenance and liability costs associated with the Foothills. Geographically speaking, they will have better access to the park than I do as a Palo Alto resident. It's a serious bike ride or drive for me to get there. The park is in their backyard. East PA is another matter.

Maintaining that space is expensive. The more people who visit , the more maintenance and insurance we have to pay for. Let's offer the good people of Los Altos Hills and Portola Valley an opportunity to pay a fair share now and see if they are willing to help. EPA residents can have access, in my opinion. They have neither funds nor space to create such open space for their residents. Their need is real. Their inability to help share the cost is also real. That is not the case with Los Altos Hills and Portola Valley.


Green Gables
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:46 pm
Green Gables, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:46 pm
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What group drove Hetch-Hetchy water to fill the lake at Foothill Park during the drought? Surely not the City of Palo Alto employees. Was it driven from Crystal Springs up the Peninsula or from Yosemite?


Midtown Local
Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Midtown Local, Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 2:57 pm
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Does Portola Valley exclude Palo Alto residents from using Windy Hill or Coal Mine Ridge? No.


Green Gables
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 22, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Green Gables, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 22, 2020 at 3:08 pm
14 people like this

Windy Hill and Coal Mine Ridge are Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District. The District's tax and voter base consists of about 550 square miles and 741,000 people, mostly in Santa Clara and San Mateo counties.


Douglas Moran
Barron Park
on Jun 22, 2020 at 3:12 pm
Douglas Moran, Barron Park
on Jun 22, 2020 at 3:12 pm
12 people like this

> "When the citizens of Palo Alto voted to buy Foothills Park in 1959, lynching was still a frequent practice in the United States." -- first sentence in the final section "The time for change is now"

Between 1950 and 1968, there were 13 lynchings -- 9 blacks and 4 whites. Between 1959 and 1963, there were 3. 1964 saw the last lynching, of 3 civil rights workers - Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner (1 black, 2 whites).
Source: Web Link
How is this "a frequent practice"???

The last lynching in this region was in 1933 in San Jose of two (white) suspects in the kidnap-murder of Brooke Hart.


Jim H
Community Center
on Jun 22, 2020 at 3:54 pm
Jim H, Community Center
on Jun 22, 2020 at 3:54 pm
2 people like this

I hope City Council can give us 2 metrics
1. How much per capita does each Palo Altan pay in taxes for all costs of the park?
2. How many park visits per year for 2018 and 2019 by Palo Altans.
With this info each Palo Altan can figure out what he/she pays for each park visit.
If we add in historical costs purchasing, building etc. then this should give us some idea of what we would have to charge for non residents that aren't paying taxes for this.


Jim H
Community Center
on Jun 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm
Jim H, Community Center
on Jun 22, 2020 at 4:05 pm
14 people like this

I'd like to repeat what many others have said. This has NOTHING to do with social justice issues. The most likely outside users of the park are wealthy Los Altos residents. All of our normal city parks are free and available to residents of any other city.

I don't even see why we would offer this access (for what in exchange?). But we need to have a citywide vote of the taxpayers that support this park, not just a City Council feel good giveaway.


Novelera
Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 4:06 pm
Novelera, Midtown
on Jun 22, 2020 at 4:06 pm
17 people like this

Oh boy! Rebecca Eisenberg sounded like a good candidate until I read her fact-free comment in response to Mr. Paulsen's Guest Opinion in the Weekly. And I'd like to emphasize "Guest Opinion". As others have stated, his family having sold the property, he has no right to opine on what people who NOW live here wish done with the park. And I 100% agree that the democratic way to handle these differences of opinion about Foothills Park would be putting this on the ballot


What Will They Do Next
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm
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@ EPA yes ... EPA is doing a lot better than you think. Facebook and Amazon money are contributing a lot to development in the area. With good planning, they'll do just fine. As a previous poster stated, it's becoming gentrified.


Hal
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 22, 2020 at 5:00 pm
Hal, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 22, 2020 at 5:00 pm
13 people like this

I enjoy the privacy of our park. One of a handful of reasons why my wife and I stretched ourselves thin so we could barely afford a 1200 sq.ft. box built in the early 1950's. My concern is use of resources of the park by others. I enjoy fishing and have watched my children and friends children catch fish at the park. Opening it up to non residents sets the lake up for over fishing and removal of a resource that currently is in limited supply. Lakeside bbq facilities consists of only two grills and benches. Open to public and the opportunity for use will become rather competitive. I do not want to go to "our" park sharing facilities and resources that others do not value. Charging a fee won't work, they tried it and it failed. Like over 1/2 dozen have said, put it on the ballot and see what happens.


Kenneth
Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 22, 2020 at 8:56 pm
Kenneth, Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 22, 2020 at 8:56 pm
12 people like this

If you think opening the park to everyone won't create problems, ask why the old Dumbarton bridge was closed to fishing. Great spot until the gangs and non resident losers started dumping bodies, building fires on bridge , shootings and breaking into cars. If you value this park, don't open it to everyone. You like the fireworks in EPA? Think the same will happen if you open park to everyone? Not saying all are losers but generally those who pay for something have a greater respect for it . I certainly am not a fan of giving away something that we pay so much to have. Other communities have parks. Let them create the same we have paid for.


TimR
Downtown North
on Jun 22, 2020 at 10:37 pm
TimR, Downtown North
on Jun 22, 2020 at 10:37 pm
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The history lesson is interesting and all, but when was the last time he actually visited the park on a weekend? It's very crowded now, with even traffic safety issues becoming more common. As for visitors not causing the majority of environmental damage, well, visitors do cause "damage" to the parts visitors use (but okay, call it wear and tear). As it is now, sections of the trails are in need of repair. Because yes, surprise surprise, people using trails causes damage to the trails. And in many spots the drop-offs are pretty significant. Maybe an entry free ($6 like at Huddart?) would help, but somebody would have to figure out a new budget and funding during this time of austerity. Just saying "open it to all" is irresponsible at best, cynical at worst. The park will be worse for all if the money isn't there to support more people.


Park
College Terrace
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:07 pm
Park, College Terrace
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:07 pm
9 people like this

Putting it to ballot!


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 23, 2020 at 7:31 am
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 23, 2020 at 7:31 am
20 people like this

Here comes the reality. The City Council wiped money out of park maintenance. We are losing city employees. Our parks are going to suffer from lack of funds.

Now is not the time to suggest altering anything to Foothills Park. The money is not there to introduce a reservation system or to collect park fees. As it is, rangers are not on the gates until mid morning. There are barely enough parking spots at weekends for the numbers of cars coming in at weekends and cars are parking wherever and at times that causes problems. The trash is not being emptied as I have seen overflowing trash containers on my latest trips, and that was something I had never seen before.

Virtue signalling is not a good reason for spending the necessary money to make any changes to the resident rule.


gary m
Ventura
on Jun 23, 2020 at 9:36 am
gary m, Ventura
on Jun 23, 2020 at 9:36 am
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Palo Alto developed foothill park by our selves while other municipality and counties turned down the opportunity to assist is its development as a regional park. I say Foothills park is like our library system for Palo Altoans. If out of towners want to use the park they can pay an entrance fee of$10.00 or more. I pay at Hudder park and state parks and national parks too, so out of towners can pay at our park. Further more if we cant afford to maintain Foothill park let go back to the wild.


commons
Charleston Gardens
on Jun 23, 2020 at 4:05 pm
commons, Charleston Gardens
on Jun 23, 2020 at 4:05 pm
2 people like this

Public spaces are for the common good and we all use the common public spaces built and maintained by other communities. The exclusionary rationales here sound terribly dated and exclusionary, and all the problems can be solved. Or, if they can't be solved, if we can't afford to have a public park, close it for a year or two.


Mother
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 28, 2020 at 12:29 pm
Mother, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 28, 2020 at 12:29 pm
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Park attendance in the 70's was 370,000/year. Current attendance is 100,000/year. Capacity of the park is 1,000/day; this info is from the committee that crafted the pilot project. I encourage people to read the pilot program put forward to the city council. Also, Pastor Smith from Palo Alto's AME church told us, in his op ed piece, ways the Palo Alto Community could be more welcoming. Top of his list was opening Foothills Park to non-residents. Pastor Smith also serves on the Human Relations Committee, dedicating his time and energy to making Palo Alto a better community. So, let's see if we can put aside our negative feelings about who funded buying the park and who refused to participate. Families have been sheltering in place since March 16. I don't have young children and can't imagine what it is like to make sure your child does well with School online, without being able to see many of their friend's and being 'stuck' inside for months. We can extend a helping hand by offering another opportunity for outdoor activities, to our neighboring communities east of our town, forgetting our grudge with our neighbors west of us. In fact, let's open the park and make sure that we actively invite our neighbors to come and enjoy nature. Pastor Smith has given us some answers, let's listen.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2020 at 2:31 pm
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2020 at 2:31 pm
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Posted by rsmithjr, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis

>> If nothing else, ending this exclusionary policy shows that Palo Alto is willing to share along with others.

Many of us who have been here a long time feel like the park is the last vestige of semi-quiet, the last Palo Alto refuge from the aura of noise and dust and traffic created by the Venture Capitalists and Developers and their minions and fellow travelers, who are intent on destroying the Peninsula as we know it, and, re-making it into Manhattan West.

Not every engineer and programmer has to work right here. Hewlett-Packard demonstrated how to manage satellite campuses very effectively 50 years ago, and, it worked well until the beancounters destroyed the company.


Me 2
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 28, 2020 at 2:42 pm
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 28, 2020 at 2:42 pm
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"Many of us who have been here a long time feel like the park is the last vestige of semi-quiet, the last Palo Alto refuge from the aura of noise and dust and traffic created by the Venture Capitalists ..."

You were here before 1961?

"Hewlett-Packard demonstrated how to manage satellite campuses very effectively 50 years ago"

And look at them today. Not a great example of management.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2020 at 2:51 pm
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2020 at 2:51 pm
4 people like this

@Me2:

I don't comprehend what you are trying to say. HP began work on the Loveland, CO facility in *1960*, 60 years ago, and opened it in 1962. Imagine.

Web Link

And, HP was doing well when it was broken up by the beancounters.

>> And look at them today. Not a great example of management.

Not for the last 21 years, which, not coincidentally, was when the beancounters started breaking up the company.


Me 2
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 28, 2020 at 4:31 pm
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 28, 2020 at 4:31 pm
1 person likes this

"I don't comprehend what you are trying to say."

VCs have been around since the late 50's. Davis and Rock was founding in 1961. Since you're claiming VC culpability, you must have been here before they started, right?


Tammi
Greenmeadow
on Jun 28, 2020 at 5:39 pm
Tammi, Greenmeadow
on Jun 28, 2020 at 5:39 pm
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I live in Greenmeadow. We charge a fee for others to use our area. Like over $1000 a year. Works for us. We control all the rules and make a pretty penny as well. Open Foothills and charge a bundle and it will work.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2020 at 7:21 pm
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 28, 2020 at 7:21 pm
1 person likes this

Posted by Me 2, a resident of Old Palo Alto

>> VCs have been around since the late 50's. Davis and Rock was founding in 1961.

They were *around*, but, had very little mindspace prior to the late 70's, and, it wasn't until the mid-80's that VC financing was always in the conversation. Then, downturn, recession, and it took a while to build back up. From the late 90's, the VC's (and MBAs) have always been in the conversation.

I took a look at the Wikipedia article on the history of Venture Capital. Pretty much the way I remember it. Web Link

>> Since you're claiming VC culpability, you must have been here before they started, right?

Multiple non sequiturs in your last couple of sentences. I still have no idea where you are trying to go with this.

In the meantime, yes, HP figured out how to run satellite campuses over 50 years ago. Now, everyone should be thinking about it.


Grew Up Here
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 1:54 am
Grew Up Here, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 29, 2020 at 1:54 am
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I went to the Foothills Park camp in 1976 as an elementary school student. I also went there on weekends with my family. It was always so special to go to the park that we, as Palo Altans, owned. Ever since our parks and Rinconada pool opened to non-residents, they have been busier than ever. We pay such high taxes and non-residents are using our resources.

With the 200 airplanes plaguing Palo Alto and the massive amount of cut-through commuters (Palo Alto swelled to 200,000 during the weekdays, prior to lockdown), we need our own park to escape to for peace and quiet. Our busy skies, our busy streets, vehicle dwellers parked on our streets, homeless in our downtown, our parks, our pool, our libraries, our tennis courts, our soccer fields, so much is being used by non-residents and we pay such high taxes. Let us at least keep our FH park; whether it is underused or not, it's there for us when we want it. And yes, there should be a person in the front booth at all times. Budget issues for one person sitting there? I doubt it.


We need our silence
Community Center
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:26 am
We need our silence, Community Center
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:26 am
8 people like this

Palo Altans are introverts and intellectuals, not extroverts. We prefer being around less people. We own it; let us decide.


Ancient Resident
Old Palo Alto
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:56 am
Ancient Resident, Old Palo Alto
on Jun 29, 2020 at 2:56 am
5 people like this

I’ve been a resident for nearly 65 years and never imagined seeing so many fellow citizens disagree with one another over access to the last piece of relatively unspoiled land.
I never imagined traffic jams in rural Half Moon Bay, or seeing crowds of hikers going up the Stanford Dish. Entering this area was forbidden in the 70's.
It is sad that we can’t finally come to some kind of agreement.
Over-population is terrible thing.


Resident
Community Center
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:39 am
Resident, Community Center
on Jun 29, 2020 at 5:39 am
1 person likes this

I have used Foothills regularly for hiking for over 30 years. Over that time, attendance has declined gradually (although it is now up during our emergency restrictions ) so that the the only time it is busy is during the warm season weekends. Most users are not hikers.
Most of the posters here seem to think that the proposal is to completely open the park. Actually, the Parks and Rec Commission has made a pretty modest recommendation which is a trial program to open it to a maximum of 50 nonresident vehicles per day and to charge nonresidents.
Also, the Environmental Volunteers have offered to help staff the nature center and provide other support which should obviate additional staffing needs.
Lastly, in response to the poster who asserted that Palo Altans are introverts - I wish.


Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:28 pm
Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 29, 2020 at 7:28 pm
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Any time someone has a "pilot program" you will never get to undo it if it does not work. It is the camel putting his nose under the tent. Parks and Rec have a great program which is very extensive. And all the person wants to talk about is FHP. Is that why he put himself on the commission? Was that his end goal? Why isn't anyone talking about all of the great programs for kids and adults. If you read the booklet put out by the city everyone will find a program they can participate in. Thank you to the city for doing a great job. No thank you to the people that started this with an agenda. And a person who threatened a law suit - hope you don't think you will live that one down the next time you provide an opinion on any subject.


Rick
Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2020 at 9:14 am
Rick, Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2020 at 9:14 am
3 people like this

Resident-1 is right.

We stopped the Ross road abomination, but the dangerous concrete clutter still sits there like a pile of — waiting for the next cyclist to be hit. Will the city go back and remove their mistake? I’ll bet “no”.


Stephen
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 1, 2020 at 2:19 pm
Stephen, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 1, 2020 at 2:19 pm
1 person likes this

@We need our silence: I would suppose that "intellectuals" would know when one is supposed to use "fewer" as opposed to "less".


Charge Palo Altans
Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2020 at 4:17 pm
Charge Palo Altans, Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 1, 2020 at 4:17 pm
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Time for other cities to begin to show by example how 100% asinine this is and to start treating Palo Alto residents like the freeloading outsiders they are. "Pariah" is a good word.


We need our silence
Community Center
on Jul 1, 2020 at 4:29 pm
We need our silence, Community Center
on Jul 1, 2020 at 4:29 pm
9 people like this

@Stephen: Ha, yes, you are correct, although it’s still “in the general area”. I don’t think our children are taught how to use a semicolon. Most PAUSD students these days are not taught any grammar and are not assigned papers because it’s too much work for the teachers to correct the papers, thus, they have classmates correct papers, as if a 6th grader has a B.A. Degree in English. Expect a Gen Z student to hardly know how to write a proper sentence because they are not being taught.


Anonymous
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 1, 2020 at 7:16 pm
Anonymous, Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 1, 2020 at 7:16 pm
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~ 10 yeatrs ago it wasn’t a good system to have peers regularly review others’ papers at Paly, our era (I could see doing this twice for the experience, max). I agree the teacher should do most of the instruction, lecturing, leading, too. Emerge with something of substance: knowledge! Very secondary is the “process”


Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 2, 2020 at 8:01 am
Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 2, 2020 at 8:01 am
13 people like this

So now we have another article in the SJM about FHP. And of course it is not complimentary. It fails to mention that most parks are subsidized by the state and county vs our park which is paid for and maintained on city dollars. And to put a cap on it our mayor says that we are "a city full of rich people". Where does Adrian think he is at? Atherton? Woodside? Los Altos Hills?

My relatives came here during one of Europe's continual wars with each other - France vs Germany (Prussia). Every generation those two go at it. Adrian's heritage country is South Africa? A colony and territory of Great Britain? Now that is a classic rich vs poor country. Can't help any one else's heritage and what ever residual anger they have over prior generations' anger. That goes for a lot of our legislative reps who are mentioned in the article. Their heritage countries are filled with war stories from the Ottoman Empire to WW2.

Reality is that this city is diverse and filled with people of all economic positions. And if you all would fill the Fry's site with buildings for our teachers, fire and police, city staff then you all could fulfill the requirement for a more economically diverse population.

Our mayor's published statements of opinion of the city he is mayor of does not speak well of him and he should resign from his position. He does not represent this city in it's reality. He sounds like an angry person in a retribution mode.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2020 at 11:47 am
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2020 at 11:47 am
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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, a resident of Adobe-Meadow

>> Our mayor's published statements of opinion of the city he is mayor of does not speak well of him and he should resign from his position.

Here is the article:

Web Link

Resident 1, I agree with you. If he hates Palo Alto so much, then why is he on the City Council, let alone mayor?


Resident
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2020 at 11:58 am
Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2020 at 11:58 am
6 people like this

The article is written with a bias.

I suspect that apart from some MV LAH LA and PV residents, most other nearby communities don't know about Foothills or particularly care.

Reading the comments, there is more information that should have been included in the article, such as the fact that the gate only has a residency check at weekends and not early in the am, and that it is not the type of Park for ball games, amplified music or other noise and emphasized the hiking and nature more.


Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 2, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, Adobe-Meadow
on Jul 2, 2020 at 12:34 pm
4 people like this

Adrian is part of the Weiner group - they have a "mission" to destroy the status quo. However neither one has done any thing to put more housing in their neighborhoods. They are on a mission and that mission is now going down the drain due to the flu.


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