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No on Palo Alto Measure F, and leave our clocks alone!

Uploaded: Oct 11, 2018
If you haven’t seen enough “No on F” signs in town, or read all the editorials against Measure F (e.g., The Palo Alto Weekly’s “No, no, no on Measure F,”) let my voice join the chorus on this local Nov. 6 ballot measure

This was sponsored and funded by the SEIU (Service Employees International Union – e.g., city and government workers) and the United Healthcare Workers West), this dastardly measure would require Palo Alto city officials to permanently monitor and supervise all hospital and medical clinics and individual patients bills. The measure implies patients will pay less for medical services and if they pay too much they will get money back.

That’s a lie. If a patient has any insurance at all, any so-called rebate will go directly to their insurance company, and there is no mandate that the insurer would refund any money to the patient.

Measure F would cost the city millions to monitor health care. Specifically (and please read the following carefully), Measure F “would require cities to appropriate sufficient funds to implement, administer and enforce this regulator program. The city’s new obligations would include receiving and maintaining cost records from the health care providers foreach patient foreach year (italics mine); evaluating the costs; determining required billing reductions or rebates; evaluating petitions for additional costs; issuing notices of violation and receiving payment of fines,” according to a report from the League of Women Voters.

Stanford Health Care reps say this will cost them millions of dollars and force the hospital to cut back on services and programs. And Measure F would also apply to Palo Alto Medical Foundation, all dentists in town, independent solo practitioner doctors, psychiatrists and optometrists in the city.

And the city is supposed to evaluate the charges to each and every patient. How? Of course, we taxpayers will inevitably pay whatever costs the city incurs.

Yes, health care costs are escalating and need to be controlled, but Measure F is absolutely no way to solve this problem. So no, no, no, no, no, no.

Leave our clocks alone!

Proposition 7 on the state ballot, if approved, would make daylight savings time permanent in this state. Most of us probably enjoy the wonderful light summer evenings we experience with daylight savings time, and those will continue. But making DST permanent is a bad idea.

If we have daylight savings time last all year round, have you thought about what happens on winter mornings? During summer months, it begins to get light at 5 a.m. but right now, sunrise is closer to 7 a.m. If we had daily savings time in the winter months, sunrise will occur as late at 8:10 a.m.

How does this affect our kids, who would have to walk or bike to school in the dark? Would school starting times change to a 9 a.m.? If so, what would parents do if their jobs still begin at 8 a.m? And California’s time would be an hour off from the rest of the country (except Arizona) so people flying out on EST or CST would arrive in California’s DST an hour later (e.g., not 10:30p.m. but 11:30 p.m.) Telephone callers would have to remember California businesses are on a different clock – and call an hour later.

Some people complain it’s too hard to turn their clocks forward in the spring and push them back in the fall. Get over it, I say to them. If it takes a day or two to adjust, just do it. Our spring, summer and fall months of DST are wonderful, but let’s keep falling back in the late fall to standard time.

Our clocks aren't broke, so let's not fix them. Vote No in Prop 7. Please,


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Posted by Anon, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood,
on Oct 11, 2018 at 5:23 pm

I'm torn regarding Prop 7. A good outcome would be that California establishes year-round "Daylight Savings Time", and, everyone just moves everything 1 hour later. Don't get up at 6:30, get up at 7:30. Don't leave for work/school at 8:00, leave at 9:00. Don't start at 8:30, start at 9:30. Work until 6:00 or 6:30. Works for me.

BTW, Daylight Savings Time wastes energy.

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Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood,
on Oct 11, 2018 at 6:02 pm

We need to use our hours of daylight wisely. There is little wisdom in having it so dark in the mornings that children will be walking to school in the dark. As Diana says, at present it is still not light at 7.00 am and in December and January it would not be light at 8.00 am. There is wisdom in the change.

If those in the tropics don't change it is because they don't have the many hours difference in daylight hours between summer and winter. The further north, the bigger the difference.

Another thing to take into account is that we already are skewed because of time zones. The sun moves (technically the earth moves) more than one hour between time zones. They are already not as accurate as a sundial would confirm.

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Posted by I agree with Diana, a resident of Atherton,
on Oct 11, 2018 at 7:01 pm

It makes no sense to save daylight all year. Why don't we just take all that daylight we saved on daylight saving time in the summer and use it in the winter when it gets dark so early?

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Posted by No Kidding, a resident of Midtown,
on Oct 11, 2018 at 8:15 pm

No Kidding is a registered user.

Prop F is an attempt by the SEIU to intimidate Stanford for not agreeing to their demands. By showing that they can initiate a proposition that would raise costs to Stanford and the city, SEIU is showing that they are not to be ignored. And never mind the collateral damage to Palo Alto taxpayers to pay for all this monitoring. Note also that Palo Alto is supposed to establish and negotiate contested charges. What a huge bureaucracy will have to be developed to do that!

F is a total loser. Tell SEIU how you feel about them spending your tax dollars for no return. You'll pay for the process and get nothing in return.

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Posted by Waiting, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Oct 11, 2018 at 11:49 pm

Yes on F.

And don't mess with clocks.

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Posted by DIana Diamond, a resident of Midtown,
on Oct 12, 2018 at 12:40 pm

DIana Diamond is a registered user.

Resident --

I may have confused you. Right now, with daylight savings time, it doesn't get light until 7 a.m. (If we were on standard time right now, it would get light at 6 a.m.) IF WE CONTINUE ON DAILY SAVINGS TIME, as Prop 7 calls for, then in December and January it wouldn't get light until 8 am. If we fall back to Standard time, it would get light at 7 a.m. in December and January. I prefer the lighter mornings in the winter -- and I think it makes it easier (and safer) for kids to get to school.

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Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood,
on Oct 12, 2018 at 2:48 pm

Diana, I'm not confused, I just expressed myself poorly. Thanks for underscoring the concerns. I am worried about what would happen if we remained on Daylight Savings Time with dark winter mornings, and I also happen to like long summer evenings. The only way we can have that is by continuing to spring forward/fall back.

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Posted by JonParsons, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis,
on Oct 13, 2018 at 12:18 pm

I agree with I Agree With Diana - it is just a matter of tax incentives (like for rainwater storage) for people to install at-home facilities to store up some of those excess summer hours and then tap into them during the dark winter days.

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