Three men arrested after interrupted burglary in Palo Alto Crimes & Incidents, posted by Editor, Palo Alto Online, on Nov 4, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Three men have been arrested by the Palo Alto Police Department after a recent interrupted residential burglary, and the men are allegedly connected to at least two other recent home break-ins, police announced Sunday.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, November 4, 2012, 7:00 PM
Posted by Jane_24, a resident of East Palo Alto, on Nov 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm Jane_24 is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
Let me guess just because they were driving a "Bimmer" and they were Hispanic we assume it was hot property? So now if a Hispanic is driving a bimmer must be hot property interesting? But if another person of different ethnicity drives it no questions asked. But because they are Hispanic Palo Alto residents drop the racism bomb? I am not agreeing on what they did. Yes is was wrong, and at the end of the day they are going to get punished for what they did. But first go visit a Jail/Prison and take noticed that many of the people you see in Jail/Prison are white that committed similar crimes such as burglaries or drunk driving running over people and killing them or rapping their own children which is far worst. Plus having a gold SUV is suddenly "pimped" out?? Go to the BMW dealer and thats on of the color the costumer gets to choose from. Another racist low blow.
Posted by bru, a resident of the Crescent Park neighborhood, on Nov 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm bru is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
Jane_24 ... your interjection of political correctness is admirable, among those who care I suppose, but irrelevant.
Whoever was driving the BMW the fact that they were thugs and criminals was known beforehand so you can't call this prejudice really. Perhaps is the the irony of bad people driving nice cars that prompted people to make comments, and not any form of racism that you seem to be reflexively reacting to?
I am a long time reader of the Palo Alto Online, and a long time resident of Palo Alto. Do you think there is any place or way or even reason to discuss that Hispanics, and in particular Hispanics of lower socio-economic status seem to be very much over-represented in the crime/violent crime statistics in our city?
Go back through the crime reports here. Is it an issue? Or if it is not an issue should "we" be prevented from commenting on it. Believe me I know many very nice hard-working Hispanics, know and have hired for work, but I have also had experience I felt were racial or reverse-racial on occasion. It certainly is not fair that in discussing this we imply that hard-working Hispanics are responsible for those that are not or are somehow responsible to change them or turn them in, any more than any other group.
I just don't think your comment is any more helpful or defensive of Hispanic's than anyone else's, do you really? Then there is the whole "wholly" untouchable subject of how many if any are actually citizens ... can't even go there.
I expect that my comment just getting posted in some way is going to be "touched" by the censors here at PAO, whereas your comment probably won't, and I don't think that is fair either.
And to end, people have a way of saying things in ways deliberate or not that affect other people differently than perhaps they meant to. How much do we take that into account. I'd be interested to know the Editor's take on when, what, how and why they censor such commentary?
Posted by Jane_24, a resident of East Palo Alto, on Nov 6, 2012 at 9:38 pm Jane_24 is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
bru...Perhaps I didn't react to the comments appropriately and I agree that the other half was irrelevant. The reason I replied to the previous comments was because I am a Hispanic female myself and found this comments/sarcasm offensive. After viewing your comment I went back and shared it with others. I wanted to see if maybe I just took this too personal but even they felt the same way. But everyone is entitled to their own feelings and opinions. Besides from this article how or where do you get that they were thugs? Maybe I missed it. Take a minute and look at the other article of the two females who committed burglaries around the area and see how comments differ.
Posted by bru, a resident of the Crescent Park neighborhood, on Nov 7, 2012 at 12:05 am bru is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
Jane_24 ... I can understand that you might have been bothered about some comments. Everyone has the right to their feeling and to have those feelings respected to some degree, at least if done with goodwill and without malice. I could even see the editor deleting those posts based on your complaint because they offered nothing to discuss in in a discussion board context. An editor's job must be hard all those tough calls.
While there have been a lot of Hispanic offenders lately in the news, there is at least one story about an Hispanic woman who had her leaf blower stolen in front of her and was threatened by a knife ... right in my own neighborhood of Crescent Park. That outraged me.
I am curious though about why the others you shared ... my or your? comments with and what it was exactly that they felt or said they felt? Asking friend's opinions is always tough though because you never know if they are just saying something to get along.
My sensitivity to racism is that while many comments like this are "racial" they are not racist in the sense of 60+ years back or farther to slavery or Jim Crow. I find most comments of this nature rude and I tend to feel it is important to draw a distinction to make a point about how far our country has come. Being a Democrat, and white, when I learned the statistic tonight in the political election commentary that most white people did not vote for Obama and that he was elected by minorities to be astounding ... and that offended me to think there is still so much racism, but it is of a covert nature. So, perhaps your feelings are justified or at least understandable. I just saw it as an unfortunate turn of line of though trying to be funny ... to me not succeeding. It is perhaps impossible to know how to react to or deal with "racial" comments that contain the fear that ignoring them or allowing them expand can lead to a resurgence of "racism"
About the word "thug", I consider anyone who commits a crime like burglary a thug, so that's where I get it. The official dictionary definition implies violence in the word, so I might be slightly off, but people who commit burglaries are most often willing to commit violence if they have to in order to complete their crime or escape the consequences.