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Car flips in crash on Embarcadero and Middlefield

Original post made on Jul 7, 2012

A woman suffered minor injuries after her car flipped in a crash at the intersection of Embarcadero and Middlefield roads at 9:20 p.m. Friday, July 6.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, July 6, 2012, 10:51 PM

Comments (26)

Posted by speed, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:13 am

Embarcadero and Middlefield are both 25mph streets. How fast was this car going to rollover? A Nissan Sentra is a small low stable sedan; not a tall SUV or pickup that will rollover on a whim.

Posted by My understanding, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:15 am

My understanding is she ran a red light and got broadsided. See the damage to the door in the articles photo. No clear a solo rollover would cause that.

Posted by Mike Grossman, a resident of Community Center
on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:17 am

Several of us found an injured dog (possibly part German Shepherd) wandering around at Rinconada Park about 20 minutes after the crash. I think it's possible that the dog was somehow involved in the accident. Perhaps the driver was trying to avoid hitting the dog. From the tennis courts, we heard a long screech of brakes before the sound of a collision.

The dog was taken for treatment by the Animal Services Division.

Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2012 at 11:33 am

How's the dog doing, does anyone know?

Can't stand that intersection due to the speeders, red light runners & drivers not paying attention.

Posted by Mike Grossman, a resident of Community Center
on Jul 7, 2012 at 11:56 am

The dog is apparently in stable condition and is currently at the vet. The injuries are significant, but don't appear to be life threatening.

Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 7, 2012 at 12:08 pm

Thank you, Mike. I hope its owner is found & that the condition of the driver is posted soon. It's great that you helped the dog!

Posted by Anon, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 7, 2012 at 2:32 pm

Just out of curiosity, how fast would each of the vehicles have to be traveling for a rollover to occur?

Posted by My understanding , a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 7, 2012 at 5:08 pm

The car that hit her had little damage. Guess the police felt no need to explain it to the press.

Posted by HillbillyHeaven, a resident of Community Center
on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:31 pm

I saw the whole thing. She was driving north on Middlefield Rdandwasn't paying attention. The dog....I believe it was a laberdoodle or yorky/English bulldog mix...was in the front seat and it looked like she was giving him some kind of treat. As she came to the intersection...the light was RED....the dog began barking furiously and jumped on her seat (possibility wanting more Milkbones?) and obscured her view. She blew the red light and was "t-boned" by an AMC Gremlin traveling at a high rate of speed. The Gremlin was driven by a middle-aged man wearing a tie dyed t-shirt that read "Make Love, Not War.

Posted by Outside Observer, a resident of another community
on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:42 pm


True or not, your description gave me my daily dose of humour.

It's so "Palo Alto" :)

Posted by DogLover, a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:54 pm

Dog should NOT be allowed in the front seat of automobiles. They can be seriously injured if there's an accident. Like small children, they should be in the back seat. Reading "Skymall" during a recent flight, I saw an ad for "Doggie Seat", a car seat for your dog...comes in small, medium, and large for different size dogs. They also sell "Doggie Diapers" for those long trips. The dog car seat sounds like a good idea, but who gets to change the diapers??

Posted by HillbillyHeaven, a resident of Community Center
on Jul 7, 2012 at 9:04 pm

@Outside Observer

What?? You think I'd "make up" a P.A. Weekly comment?

Anyhoo, it seems to me that Weekly posters are often oh-so-serious and self righteous

Posted by OfCourse, a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 8, 2012 at 5:29 am

Those Darned BICYCLISTS! Oh, um...never mind, it was car...again.

Posted by me, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 8, 2012 at 1:41 pm

Good job PAFD!!!!!!

Posted by Sharon, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 8, 2012 at 6:10 pm

If no charges are filed then this is just another traffic accident.

It amazing how US vehicle safety has improved
-no fire
-no death
-no serious injuries.

Good technology.

The next step will be the natural gas use in vehicles--in the US we have 150 years of proven reserves of NG

Cheap, clean, safe and American sourced

Posted by Carol, a resident of Midtown
on Jul 9, 2012 at 6:55 am

@Sharon: about the natural gas: are you familiar with the hydrofracking techniques that are polluting water supplies with toxic chemicals and causing earthquakes in areas of the US? Loss of water is quite a price to pay for fuel - but of course, fracking is not likely in Palo Alto, and our precious water from the Sierras may not be in danger - yet. Fracking is coming to California, if "Friends of Natural Gas" have their way. Cheap, clean and safe? Not really! Stay tuned.

Posted by KP, a resident of South of Midtown
on Jul 9, 2012 at 9:43 am

A GREMLIN!! Who has a Gremlin anymore...HILARIOUS bit! Maybe it was a Pacer!! LOL!!

Living so close, I use that intersection almost daily and never have seen or been remotely close to an accident there...I had no idea it was considered so "dangerous".

People who drive cars don't realize, anymore, that it is a PRIVILEGE - NOT A RIGHT to drive. We have stressed that to our kids and HOPE they get it.

Anyhoo - Happy Monday!

Posted by Neighbor, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 9, 2012 at 11:05 am

>True or not, your description gave me my daily dose of humour.

Yes, observing women in trouble is such fun, isn't it.

Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 9, 2012 at 11:29 am

I drive down Newel frequently, cars on Embarcadero blow thru the stop light at Embarcadero and Newell (one block east of Middlefield) at least 50% of the time.

Posted by Experienced Cyclist, a resident of Community Center
on Jul 9, 2012 at 1:20 pm

I also live near that intersection and walked my kids to Walter Hays every morning for about 10 years, which involves walking through that intersection. During the morning commute hours, you see someone run that red light just about every cycle, especially the folks turning left from southbound Middlefield to eastbound Embarcadero. It's surprising there aren't more such accidents at that location. If PAPD ever needs to do some revenue generation, that should be easy picking.

Posted by jimmy cheng, a resident of Walter Hays School
on Jul 9, 2012 at 4:09 pm

For my 6 months experienced as a school crossing guard, at the intersection of fire station 3, i almost got run over twice.
Which i'm with my so bright reflective vest , while i'm walking inside the cross walk.
All i can do is just pray to see another day.

Posted by moi , a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2012 at 6:55 pm

No, no, no, please do not say "a high rate of speed."

Save your keyboard and fingers.

It's simply "high speed."

Posted by Carlitos Waysman, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Can the Palo Alto Police Dept explain, why they still have the signs up stating that the speed limit on Embarcadero is 25 MPH, while the 95% of drivers go 35 MPH and above?

Posted by Police info, a resident of another community
on Jul 10, 2012 at 3:22 am

To Experienced Cyclist: PAPD doesn't get any money from writing traffic citations. The City gets some money from parking citations but that goes back into the general fund, not the police department.

To Carlitos Waysman: PAPD doesn't dictate a speed limit for a road. That is decided by the City's traffic engineering department which is part of Public Works.

Posted by commuter, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jul 10, 2012 at 8:36 am

Obviously, Carlitos was commenting on why does the PAPD not strictly enforce speed limits on residential roads next to many of our schools? Increasing the speed limit on roads near schools is unthinkable. If possible, the city should make all school roads double fine zones.

Posted by Mr. stop, a resident of Mountain View
on Dec 7, 2012 at 3:58 pm

I happen to work 3 blocks down on Embarcadero
as crossing guard, I see 9 red light runners everyday at this corner.
I conclude that drivers:
a)don't respect the traffic laws
2) don't read or obey signs
3) are too dumb to know they are breaking the law
4)think that they are more important than pedestrians so why not
play "the biggest bully wins"?
5) don't really give a darn if they run over or run into somebody.
And I have only seen a policeman pull over a car ONE time there, probably for expired license tag?
So who wants my job? its yours!

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