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on May 3, 2008
The Kip and Nicole Macy story, the "landlords from hell" sound like a movie with Michael Keaton: Pacific Heights. I guess you really never own anything in San Francisco - Your tennants do.
I doubt they did anything. Computer Engineers, like my wife, are a little nutty, but not violent or malicious.
Paul: wow, yours is the first sane comment I've read in all of this saga. So many people are jumping to condemn the Macys. They believe everything they've read.
I agree with Paul. The tenants have to be making up all the stories about beams being cut, floors having saws come up from underneath, theft of money and other property, and ammonia being poured on other property. Oh yeah, the building inspectors are colluding with the tenants.
Every software engineer I've ever known was a wimp and would never think of doing anything like what's been described in a number of newspaper articles. Real estate agents, however, are a completely different beast.
If they had just shot the tenant, they would be out on bail.
It's worth noting, the Macys are residents of Palo Alto. Perhaps all the previous commentators are supporters because that's the way it's done there. Explain the gag order geniuses. Innocent people usually want the facts out. Go back to Hoover Institute and develop a better idea or give Karl Rove a call.
Palo Alto is not noted for being a bastion of Republican support. Perhaps Palo Altans simply have some small iota of critical thinking skills. One might safely conclude that those are lacking in residents of SF. SF is a city constantly crying about a "housing crisis" that repeatedly creates policies that reduce housing supply.
Outside of SF it was widely recognized that this article was grossly one-sided.
Wonder if there is more to it:
Computer engineers are never violent? Haven't you ever heard of Hans Reiser?
Of course there is more to this story. I've been reading about it for months. Even if the tenants are being less than perfectly honest, it's looking like evidence is bearing out their stories.
Once again, I have to note how often people on this board love to point the finger at EPA, given how many problems there are. But really - PA - you have your hands full, too! Shootings, violent robberies, kidnapping/rape, serial burglaries of residences and autos, cops misusing their powers of authority with illicit off-duty jobs, street crime downtown. And now - you can proudly claim not just Page Mill Properties as unscrupulous landlords, you have the charming Macys!
Either you didn't read the link or you think that perjury, fraud, theft, and trespassing are acceptable behavior provided that they are done by tenants. It actually completely undermines *all* the allegations.
As for EPA, don't forget that it was the per capita murder capital of the United States until the surrounding communities got involved with policing it.
Sorry guys ... the facts simply don't bear out your statements.
I haven't been paying very close attention so I don't understand the ruckus about Page Mill Properties. If they are as terrible as you say they are, move out and organize a boycott - that way you can drive them out of business. If you are staying and complaining that would indicate to me that you must be getting something you're not entitled to, in which case it would be you exploiting them.
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