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Ruling sparks fresh hope for high-speed-rail critics

Original post made on Aug 29, 2013

A fresh verdict from a Sacramento County judge threatens the one source of money that high-speed-rail officials felt was a sure thing — the $9 billion in state funds that state voters approved for the $68 billion project in November 2008, when the price tag of the San Francisco-to-Los Angeles system was pegged at $45 billion.

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Comments (9)

Posted by senor blogger, a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 29, 2013 at 2:41 pm

This is the same story you ran two or three weeks ago.
Now you are just resorting to propagandizing.
Shame on you


Posted by Garrett, a resident of another community
on Aug 30, 2013 at 1:40 pm

If we need to handle more air traffic, we can take over Moffett Field. Time to build the Hecker Pass Freeway. We should build a freeway from Palo Alto to Livermore.


Posted by PatrickD, a resident of Barron Park
on Aug 30, 2013 at 3:17 pm

Garrett: No thanks, however I would settle for a pedestrian underpass under the Caltrain tracks between Cal. Ave and Meadow Road.


Posted by local, a resident of College Terrace
on Aug 31, 2013 at 6:22 pm

I wonder how these Central Valley folks who are trying to bring HSR to it's knees will feel when their lands are taken over by the new freeways that we'll soon be needing to build instead of HSR??


Posted by Big Bill!, a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 31, 2013 at 10:01 pm

The current version of high speed rail bears little semblance to what was promised in 2008, and made into law, by prop 1a. The judge correctly called HSR for what it currently is, a fraud; we are most definitely not getting what we voted for.

Successful ballot initiatives are the law in CA, like it or not. If the Governor and his entourage can circumvent the law by simply ignoring it, that is a very sad, and troublesome statement of the current state of government, and the governor of California.


Posted by Timothy Gray, a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Sep 3, 2013 at 9:13 am

If the judge allows the HSR to move forward, it will at least negate the notion that the project has to go to San Francisco.

This would allows the HSR to terminate near San Jose or in the East Bay. Travelling further to Peninsula neighborhoods or San Francisco would be accomplished on a quiet and efficient electrified Cal Train commuter rail with a few at-grade crossings like Charleston and W. Meadow eliminated.

The hurdle has always been the assertion that HSR had to be all (LA-SF) or nothing. Maybe this will set the legal precedent to build a rail route that makes sense like the voters in 2008 originally envisioned.

Tim Gray


Posted by C.Jillaine.V, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Nov 8, 2013 at 12:25 am

BTW, this is NOT my neighborhood, but this website wouldn't let me not list a website. So here is where I really live...

How unfortunate my neighborhood wasn't listed, yet my entire life is invested. I live in Kings County. I live on a 4th generation farm effected by HSR.
Not sure where you think you're food is grown but, that would be in Kings County.
My understanding is that the ONLY reason HSR, wants to go through our County is that land "is cheap" and they think we are too dumb to know what they are doing.
Umm, we voted, and our vote counts, so follow the rules of Prop. 1a.

I personally didn't vote for the HSR, based soley on the fact that it would cost California tax payers more money. I think we pay enough taxes in the State of California, we don't need to add to our own tax burden, or that of my children or grandchildren...
Please HSR find another route, find away around my County. Follow the law as it was passed.
As California voters, we passed proposition 1a, follow that and leave Kings County out of your plan.


Posted by resident, a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Nov 16, 2013 at 12:18 pm

HSR is currently working the issues in Fresno where they are trying to displace people who have had their land for over 30 years. Those people are being paid of at the Tax Assessment value - relatively low for long held land - and then leasing back at current market rtes. The differential is where a part of the HSR funding is derived. This same funding scheme has been used to project ABAG - SB-375 hosing requirements along transportation routes. That impact in PA focuses on the Central Expressway / Alma corridor which has older apartments and housing, presumably at low tax assessed value. Project that same funding scheme from LA/San Diego to SF/Sacramento and it produces a fairly ugly situation. The focus on the San Antonio Blvd to Oregon Expressway would be considered the "low hanging fruit" for this area.


Posted by resident, a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Nov 20, 2013 at 10:42 pm

Current HSR news 11/19/13 NY Times "Japan Pitches its High-Speed Train with an Offer to Finance". Offer is to feds for northeast routes for maglev train. High level people involved here - NY former governor, New Jersey, Pennsylvania. Most expensive part in Japan is boring through mountains. If in California boring through Tehachapi Mountains would be most expensive part of project. No mountains to bore through in northeast.
If this is agreed to then the feds desire to have a HSR would be satisfied within the available funding. Looks like they would use existing right of ways. The Northeast Maglev has very high level government sponsorship. Japan wants to surpass France and Germany with their technology. This looks like a go for HSR in the northeast.
No mention in article about California.


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