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Scott Walker is the next Reagan

Original post made by Gary, Downtown North, on Jun 6, 2012

Walker is the most potent politician of our times. He didn't flinch, and he believes in his own message, and is comfortable in his own skin. He took on the unions and crushed them.

Is there a Walker in California's future? After all, Wisconsin is not all that different than California, in terms of politics. If it can happen there, it can happen here. This is tipping point time.

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Posted by Agree?
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Jun 7, 2012 at 9:10 am

Funny, Gary...I had the same thought a couple days ago. Not clear to me he is as capable as Reagan, but gotta say,the guy knows how to stand firm and deliver, and explain to the "masses" what is needed...then follow through.

We'll watch his future...


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 10:49 am

Wow. Lil' Scooter Walker as the new Reagan?

Who'da thunk it?

Gary must think that Walker, just like Reagan did, will:
- run away after hundreds of Marines get killed in Lebanon
- raise taxes 11 times, including the largest working class tax hike in history, doubling payroll taxes
- triple the national debt
- run the most corrupt administration in history - "The presidency of Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."
- double the size of the Dept of Education with Bill 'Book of Virtues' Bennett's help? (between Bill losing millions at poker slots, that is)
- trade weapons to Iran, expressly against the law, and funnel drugs from Central America Web Link

or the capper: LIE to the American public about criminal activities: ""A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."

Or say, as Reagan did: "They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost."

Nah, Gary, I think Walker will do better than Reagen in each one of those areas. Granted, Reagan set a high bar, but lil' Scooter Walker is a special case.

After all, Scottie is already lawyered up. He's the only sitting governor with a legal defense fund. That's a good start. Even Ronnie never did that as a governor.

Go, Scotty, go!


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 10:53 am

I love that line "My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not."

I used it once with my wife.

"My heart and my best intentions still tell me I didn't cheat on you, but the facts and the evidence tell me otherwise."

Rather, I should say, my now ex-wife.

Some guys deliver a lie better than others. Must have been Ronnie's training as an actor.

Those Hollywood types....


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 12:21 pm

The next Reagan, huh? So Walker's gonna raise our taxes seven times like Reagan did?


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 12:33 pm

As usual, the Reagan haters are still out there...no surprise. Leftists just can't get over him, and his success in defeating socialism. He won the cold war, lowered tax rates, provided for supply-side growth, brought back America. What a guy!

Walker is not (yet) in his league, but he has the stuff.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 12:39 pm

"As usual, the Reagan haters are still out there...no surprise. Leftists just can't get over him, and his success in defeating socialism"

The usual response--anyone who does not worship Reagen is a "hater" and the leftists, once again. Same old, same old,

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 12:53 pm

svatoid,

[Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] Many, back in my socilist days, thought Reagan was a joke. A few of us learned the hard way, and I am glad that I did. Reagan was too intelligent for his opponents (like a fox!).

Walker is the spear through the heart of the public sector unions. As importantly, he has the personality to follow through. If/when he becomes president, he will take on the international issues with the comfort and calm of his own convictions.

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It is time to CELEBRATE the crushing victory of Scott Walker...the next Reagan!


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 12:59 pm

"Many, back in my socilist days, thought Reagan was a joke. A few of us learned the hard way, and I am glad that I did. Reagan was too intelligent for his opponents (like a fox!)."

Same old, same old--Gary was once a leftist and then he grew a brain!!!!

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Posted by Yawn
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2012 at 1:02 pm

Yawn! Same old, same old. Boring piffle. Sound without substance.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 1:27 pm

>Actually, Gary, you should read up on what people in Wisconsin said about the election and why they voted for Walker.

This is what is, sympathetically, called spin!

Scott Walker was re-elected because he told the people of WI the truth, and they agreed. It was not about money, recall principles...ad nauseum.

You lefties are facing a tough road ahead, as you should. Of course, you could grow a brain, admit your mistakes and support growing a substantial future, with individual freedom, for the most people...that would be called capitalism.

I am not holding my breath for you, but I am very happy over the past couple of days!

There is always hope for my (ex) fellow lefties. Some of us got it sooner than others....


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 1:33 pm

"Scott Walker was re-elected because he told the people of WI the truth, and they agreed. It was not about money, recall principles...ad nauseum."
This is what is, sympathetically, called spin!

"You lefties are facing a tough road ahead, as you should. Of course, you could grow a brain, admit your mistakes and support growing a substantial future, with individual freedom, for the most people...that would be called capitalism."
Back to the same old tired slogans--lefties and growing a brain

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 1:38 pm

Let's see... Ronald Reagan not only raised taxes seven times (including the biggest tax increase to date), but the federal bureaucracy had its biggest payroll during his administration.

Reagan was a stealth socialist.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 3:24 pm

Under Reagan, the top marginal individual income tax rate fell from 70.1% to 28.4%.

We can expect similar spectacular results from Walker, although it may be more about crushing the public sector unions, and their benefits, instead of marginal tax rates. Both at the same time would be even better!

Time to celebrate!


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 3:53 pm

"Under Reagan, the top marginal individual income tax rate fell from 70.1% to 28.4%."

And what did YOUR tax rate do? Somebody had to pay the salaries of that bloated Reagan bureaucracy, you know.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 4:22 pm

>And what did YOUR tax rate do? Somebody had to pay the salaries of that bloated Reagan bureaucracy, you know.

Firstly, Reagan LOWERED taxes, he did not raise them. Time to put that fallacy to sleep (what talking points websites are the lefties addicted to?).

Secondly, my personal tax rates remained about the same, since I was not in the upper income brackets. However, I found a good job, due to the Reagan prosperity...due to supply-side economics. I also worked my ass off, without complaint (this was after I grew a brain). Then I started to make more money, and I could keep it...the American Dream!

It is clear that Scott Walker is scaring the pants off the various lefties, especially the public sector unions, which should not exist in the first place (as FDR warned us). The big irony is that Wisconsin was the first state to recognize public sector unions...now it is the first state, having recognized them, to get rid of them. Lesson learned?

The November election is going to be a real crusher for the lefties. I doubt that California will be in play, but it could be, given the state of our fiscal problems. We need a Scott Walker to lead the way.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 4:30 pm

"Firstly, Reagan LOWERED taxes, he did not raise them. Time to put that fallacy to sleep (what talking points websites are the lefties addicted to?)."

Thought you'd never ask. My source is Senator Alan Simpson (R-WY), Reagan's friend.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 4:35 pm

Oops, goofed. Simpson really said that Reagan raised taxes 11 times, not 7 (Web Link).




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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 4:55 pm

"Under Reagan, the top marginal individual income tax rate fell from 70.1% to 28.4%."

The top did great under Ronnie - really really really great. The middle got their taxes raised, including the largest working class tax hike in history.

Even at that, the national debt tripled under Ronnie, from $.9 trillion to $2.7 trillion.

Bush the First raised taxes too, or doesn't Gary remember the phrase "read my lips, no new taxes" that sunk Bush and allowed Clinton to defeat a sitting president.

But Reagan was king of the tax hikes: It's a record Republicans find terribly inconvenient, but "no peacetime president has raised taxes so much on so many people" as Reagan. look it up gary.

"As president, Reagan "raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office," including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan "a dear friend," told NPR, "Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there." "Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes," said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan's memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is "false mythology," Brinkley said."

Former Senator ALAN SIMPSON (Republican, Wyoming): "Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration. I was here. I was here. I knew him. Better than anybody in this room. He was a dear friend and a total realist as to politics."

Reagan tax hikes, the actual legislation:

- Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982
- Highway Revenue Act of 1982
- Social Security Amendments of 1983
- Railroad Retirement Revenue Act of 1983
- Deficit Reduction Act of 1984
- Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
- Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
- Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986
- Continuing Resolution for 1987
- Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987
- Continuing Resolution for 1988

So there's the list Gary. You lied when you said: "Firstly, Reagan LOWERED taxes, he did not raise them. Time to put that fallacy to sleep (what talking points websites are the lefties addicted to?)."

You lied. Or you don't know basic history. Or you are too lazy to look it up.

Which is it?

And another thing Gary: Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times.

Reagan the RINO couldn't get elected as dog catcher today.

Walker will get rewarded with a senate seat of house seat, if he survives his legal troubles. He'll never be part of a national ticket.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 5:00 pm

It is very odd how the lefties continue to read their own reflections. At the end of the day, Reagan lowered marginal rates significantly. No rational economist denies this. He tried to lower them even more, but was forced to creep back up by Congress(7 times?; 11 times?...who cares...he got the job done).

Scott Walker will hold the line on taxes...count on it, unless he needs to win another world war, like Reagan. Walker's main mission is to continue to crush the public sector unions. He is doing a great job, so far!


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 5:11 pm

"It is very odd how the lefties continue to read their own reflections."

I think you're the first to call Alan Simpson a leftist. Be that as it may, though, raising taxes 11 times is no way to reduce tax rates, marginal or otherwise.

Reagan forced by Congress?!?. Wotta wimp. Why didn't he just crush them under the heel of the Nocona on his right foot?


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 5:30 pm

> Be that as it may, though, raising taxes 11 times is no way to reduce tax rates, marginal or otherwise.


Yes it is...if you first reduce taxes from 70% to 22% (approx)...then you raise them up to 28%...in order to win the cold war (if forced by a Dem congress). Reagan was a great president. And he won the cold war, while still reducing taxes, big time.

Walker is of the same stripe as Reagan. We have hope, now, because the public sector unions are in their death throes. About time!


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 5:34 pm

reagan had a veto pen. He RAISED taxes 11 times.

Gary LIED about it. When shown the evidence, he weasels and writhes around.

So many lies. So much rhetoric and mumbo jumbo from Gary. No one takes Gary's statements as accurate. His statements here just allow normal folks to get a taste of what's happening over in the fringe right slums of Fox, Rush, red state, etc..

And that makes it good to see. Heartening to see so many folks call him on his dishonesty, so many jumping at the chance to correct his falsehoods, just in case someone who hasn't paid attention may stumble on his falsehoods and think he knows what he's talking about.

He doesn't. Witness the lies about Reagan's tax hikes. When shown the actual legislation, Gary stammers about it being someone else fault.

Never take Gary's statements as true unless you've done the research yourself.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 7, 2012 at 6:02 pm

"my personal tax rates remained about the same, since I was not in the upper income brackets"

So let me get this straight, Gare. You claim Reagan lowered taxes (even after raising them 11 times), you got no cut of that pie, but you worship the guy for cutting the fat cats' taxes. Wow.

Nevertheless, anybody who gets "forced by a Dem congress" is a wimp in my book.

Gotta go now. Forum's all yours.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 6:35 pm

Wow, I missed that too.

"Secondly, my personal tax rates remained about the same"

Tax cuts for the uber wealthy, while tripling the national debt, and Gary got nothing while the fat cats rolled in it.

Gary claims the economy was better under Reagan, but his memory failed or he lied. Again. There were several recessions in the 80's, especially during Bush's tenure.

Now for a great economy that lifted all boats, look at the 90's - the Clinton economy with 23 million new jobs. That's the time Gary is thinking about... "started to make more money, and I could keep it...the American Dream!"


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 6:44 pm



Walkers triumph is a victory,for common sense

-for the Independents and Republicans,

-for the 30%of union families who voted for him

He is a long way from Reagan-but may get there

He will not be Mitts VP but he will help him get elected.

" Democrats believe Obama can lose ...

Last week's anemic job-creation and economic-growth data was sandwiched between two Bill Clinton specials:

in one television interview, the 42nd President lauded Romney's business record as "sterling";

in another, he veered from the Obama line on the extension of Bush-era tax cuts ...

The failure to unseat Wisconsin's Republican governor Scott Walker in a recall election was another bad sign for Democrats since it will rev up conservatives nationwide,

Web Link


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 7:06 pm

"He will not be Mitts VP but he will help him get elected."

Based on what evidence? Exit polls show Obama winning Wisconsin handily.

"In fact, exit polls showed that 18% of Walker voters favor President Barack Obama. Most see the president as the candidate to move the economy and help the middle class, and if the election were held tomorrow, by these numbers, Obama would take Wisconsin again.

More significantly, with the margin of 7%, that still leaves an obvious 46% of Wisconsin voters at odds with the governor's agenda, many with an extreme intensity that fueled an unprecedented ground game on behalf of challenger Tom Barrett."

Sharon misrepresenting Bill Clinton: "the 42nd President lauded Romney's business record as "sterling";"

Cherry picking a single word can get one in trouble - here's what Clinton said IN context: ""I think he had a good business career. The -- there is a lot of controversy about that. But if you go in and you try to save a failing company, and you and I have friends here who invest in companies, you can invest in a company, run up the DEBT, LOOT it, sell all the assets, and force all the people to LOSE THEIR RETIREMENT AND FIRE THEM."

Bain Capital was not traditional VENTURE capital, it was VULTURE capital.

Just look at this list of REPUBLICANS who agree:

- "[Bain] loots companies, leave behind broken families, broken towns." —Newt Gingrich

- "It's the ultimate insult when Mitt Romney comes to South Carolina and tells you he feels your pain—because he caused it. [...] There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business. I happen to think that is indefensible." —Rick Perry

- "Governor Romney has claimed to have created over 100,000 jobs at Bain, and people are wanting to know: is there proof of that claim? And was it U.S. jobs created for United States citizens? [...] And that's fair, that's not negative campaigning." —Sarah Palin

- "Governor Romney enjoys firing people." —Jon Huntsman

- "While Mitt Romney was at Bain Capital, almost one out of every four companies they were involved with went bankrupt or went out of business." —John Brabender, Rick Santorum campaign manager

Mitt Romney is using his Bain experience because he doesn't have anything else - just a repeat of Bush policies and his FAILED record as a "one and done" governor who couldn't get reelected.

Failure.

Obama: 27 months of private sector job growth and 4.3 million new jobs after the Bush disastrous monthly job losses of early 2009.

THIS CHART EXPLAINS IT ALL:

Web Link

Sharon and Gary will IGNORE this chart.


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 7, 2012 at 8:06 pm


Clinton said what he said-why?-we do not know

Obamas fund raising in SF and LA was way below expectations--as it was in PA-they were giving away seats to fill the rooms.

Carter did better


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Posted by Outside Observer
a resident of another community
on Jun 7, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Will Walker give amnesty to illegal aliens like Reagan did?


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 7, 2012 at 9:44 pm

"Will Walker give amnesty to illegal aliens like Reagan did?"

Ouch. That's gotta hurt....


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 8, 2012 at 6:07 am

"Clinton said what he said-why?-we do not know"
Don't see any link to this comment--ergo a made up SHaron comment.

"Obamas fund raising in SF and LA was way below expectations--as it was in PA-they were giving away seats to fill the rooms.
Carter did better"
Don't see any links for this claim either--another SHaron fabrication.

One can go through Sharon's and Gary's posting on this thread and be hard-pressed to find anything truthful in their postings.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 8, 2012 at 2:28 pm

Scott Walker will not say, "The private sector is doing fine"...until it actually is doing fine. And Walker is someone who can actually help the private sector by lowering taxes, educational vouchers, crushing the public sector unions and much more.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 8, 2012 at 2:37 pm

svatoid is a registered user.

Gary--how is the fundraising for the Reagen Memorial in DC going?


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Posted by moi
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2012 at 2:44 pm

>>>> Gary:

Your comments strike me as being phrased rather ambiguously, but I gather you are a fan of Scott Walker.

>>>> Your comments from original post:

"Walker is the most potent politician of our times. He didn't flinch, and he believes in his own message, and is comfortable in his own skin. He took on the unions and crushed them.
"Is there a Walker in California's future? After all, Wisconsin is not all that different than California, in terms of politics. If it can happen there, it can happen here. This is tipping point time."

Believes in his own message? Meaningless. Ignorant people believe in their own messages, too.
Union-busting? Fabulous. (Read sarcasm.)
A Walker-equivalent in California? Again, just fabulous. (Again, please read sarcasm.)



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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 8, 2012 at 3:07 pm

>Believes in his own message? Meaningless. Ignorant people believe in their own messages, too.

It is questionable that Obama believes in his own message (Guantonimo, anyone? post-partisan? less than 8% unemployment?). He needs to do like Walker, and get off the teleprompter. Or at least argue about the scripts.

Walker believes in his OWN message...indeed.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 8, 2012 at 3:59 pm

"Walker believes in his OWN message...indeed."

I feel Godwin about to be invoked.....


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 8, 2012 at 4:27 pm

>I feel Godwin about to be invoked.....

If so, you will need to invoke it.

This is not about Hitler (Godwin's rule).

This is about how Walker is ruling. Walker is opposing leftist repression, while supporting individual freedom. He is winning!

He is the next Reagan. This means that he has a chance to change the world for the better. Like Reagan did.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 8, 2012 at 7:24 pm

<called it re Godwin, didn't I?>

Walker will only make it out of Wisconsin with a purchased house or senate seat, much like this one was purchased by outspending his opponent 10-1.

He'll never win a national office.

As far as Reagan, what will he do most like Ronnie?

Amnesty illegals?

Most indictments ever? (my vote, since he already has a head start!)

Trade weapons to Iran?

Triple the national debt?

11 tax hikes?


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 8, 2012 at 7:42 pm



Reagan won the war with the USSR and saved the West from nuclear war.

His policies caused the USSR to collapse and freed millions in eastern Europe and Asia.

He defeated the air traffic controllers union and brought sense to that sector-

-Walkers achievements are less but he has started a nation wide sensible end to the unions shakedown policy


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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm

The issue is who will be the CA equivalent of Gov Walker?

CA Gov Brown has caved into the unions demand for HSR

Opposition to HSR will reveal the CA equivalent of Scott Walker in taking on the unions who are driving this fraud and boondoggle.

It could be a Democrat or a Republican--anyone with the spine and courage to confront the dysfunction unions.


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Posted by Yawn
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2012 at 7:41 pm

Telling quote from Gary: "This is about how Walker is ruling." Seems he likes the strongman form of government, not that nasty republican/democratic stuff we have that seeks to blunt the power of strongmen, oligarchs, and robber barons.

Power to the people, as people used to say.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 10, 2012 at 12:09 pm

> "This is about how Walker is ruling."

Yes it is. There are strong and effective rulers in the U.S., like Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Reagan. There are also weak rulers like Carter and Obama. The president of the USA has enormous, but not absolute, power. He rules, by convincing the people that he is right ...and through executive fiat.

Scott Walker is currently ruling Wisconsin, because he has fought the good fight, and the people are behind him. Watch for more good things from him!


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Posted by Yawn
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Smirk.


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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Jun 10, 2012 at 1:09 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Public employee unions are not the problem - they are the symptom of the disease. The disease is elected officials who cannot and do not wish to see beyond their term of office, who allow themselves to become captives of the unions because of the unions' election support, who disregard unfunded pension and retirement health benefit liabilities and who believe that their local budget is balanced if all of the long term liabilities are simply ignored.
The public employee union leaders have negotiated great agreements - for their members. Our elected officials have negotiated horrible agreements - for the public they are supposed to serve.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 10, 2012 at 6:55 pm

"...who allow themselves to become captives of the unions because of the unions' election support... "

Peter: Public financing of elections. Then the elected officials do not "owe" union leaders any favors.

A few bucks to finance elections reap large rewards in not paying for bloated contracts, tax subsidies, etc.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 10, 2012 at 7:45 pm

>Public financing of elections

Horrible idea!

Political parties provide a very useful filter for rational discussion. Without them, politics would go to the street...those with the most foot soldiers/thugs win.

Contributing money to political parties is a civilized way to express our own special interests. It is also a way to defeat the public-sector unions. Scott Walker showed the way.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm

gary/jerry/sharon, etc.. : "Contributing money to political parties is a civilized way to express our own special interests."

Barack Obama will raise almost a billion dollars, so will Mitt Romney.

"POLITICO has learned that Koch-related organizations plan to spend about $400 million ahead of the 2012 elections..." Web Link

Unless you and I are in the big leagues (hundreds of thousands or millions in donation from either of us) then you are not a "civilized way to express our own special interests" to the politicians.

You are not even a gnat.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 9:45 am

It doesn't matter how much George Soros and the unions give to leftist causes...they will never, again, get my vote.

I could care less how much the Koch brothers spend...I will vote for the candidate that best reprsents my views.

BTW, my vote is equal to anbody's vote, including the Koch brothers and Soros.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 9:54 am

If Scott Walker is the next Reagan, he will raise taxes 11 times and and bloat the government bureaucracy to its all time high. Watch this guy and keep your scorecard handy.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 11, 2012 at 10:16 am

gary/jerry/sharon, etc..: "my vote is equal to anbody's vote, including the Koch brothers and Soros"

Technically correct. If they even bother to vote.

How does your vote stack up against $400 million in negative ads, gotv, and "who-knows-what"?

Just ask Meg. She didn't bothered to vote for 28 years.

Much more effective to just buy elections. Why bother with the pesky, droll task of having one of your secretaries fill out an absentee ballot when you can buy an election?


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 11, 2012 at 10:34 am

Looks like I'm not the only one saying ol' Ronnie Reagan couldn't win a primary in today's wingnut GOP.

It comes from one of the GOP's strongest hopes for 2016, when/if Mitt craters in November.

This guy should know, his daddy worked for Ronnie; his older brother was President.

Yup, Jeb. Jebbie just said the fringe has taken over the party and Reagan would be unacceptable.

"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party — and I don't — as having an orthodoxy that doesn't allow for disagreement, doesn't allow for finding some common ground," Bush said, adding that he views the hyper-partisan moment as "temporary."

Web Link

- Raises taxes 11 times.

- Amnesties illegals.

- Runs away after the Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon.

The only thing the GOP likes about Reagan now is all the lawbreaking his team did for him - "The presidency of Ronald Reagan was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any US president."

Jeb Bush said it - his party has gone off the rails. Would not find Reagan acceptable today.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:19 am

If you lefties want to see the reality of the past month, read this article by Charles Krauthammer:

Web Link

Bottom line: Waterloo for the public unions.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:31 am

gary/jerry/sharon, etc..:

No response to your vote being mocked, as important as $400 million buying an election? Just Ask Meg.

No response to the Great White Hope of the GOP for 2016, acronym-boy himself - John Ellis Bush, calling the current GOP out as an off-the-rails fringe group that has to come back to the mainstream of America?

"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation, finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have a hard time if you define the Republican party — and I don't — as having an orthodoxy that doesn't allow for disagreement, doesn't allow for finding some common ground," Bush said, adding that he views the hyper-partisan moment as "temporary."

Jeb: the GOP off the rails! Wouldn't elect Reagan!


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a resident of Midtown
on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:32 am

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:40 am

>Jeb: the GOP off the rails! Wouldn't elect Reagan!


If Reagan was still alive, and could run again, he would win the upcomming election, given his record. In fact, he would crush it. The Bush family always argued for 'moderation', and they opposed Reagan, when it counted. Reagan won the day.

Enuf' about JEB...he is a nice Bush, but he doesn't get it.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 11:45 am

>Gary--cannot come up with your own analysis, so you let Chuck do it.

Same analysis, but Chuck just does it better than me.


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Posted by reagan most criminal indictments
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 11, 2012 at 12:12 pm

awwww, gary/jerry/sharon, etc.. doesn't want about Jeb: "Enuf' about JEB..."

Gary claims Reagan would be elected in today's GOP, running on a platform of:

- Raises taxes 11 times.

- Amnesties illegals.

- Runs away after the Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon.

- trades weapons to Iran

- most criminal Presidency ever

"...Reagan ... would win the upcomming election, given his record. " Ha! That's funny. Reagan couldn't win a primary in EITHER party! Gary, who's drinking his Koolaid, now?

"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."

What would AIPAC say about that today?

- - - - -

How does it apply to today? This statement - Romney ran from Reagan: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush; I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."

Looks like gary/jerry/sharon, etc.. won't find their false idol in Mitt. Mittens didn't like Reagan back in the days of Reagan. Which wass only a few years after his multiple deferments allowed him

- - - - -

I'm done here. Leave up up to others to debunk any new silly fallacious claims by the fringies. Once again, the facts and history come down hard on gary/jerry/sharon, etc.. to expose their silly claims. Today was just a bonus, with Jeb Bush coming out to verify that Gary's Koolaid is artificially sweetened with fringe tea bags.

(sorry about the mixed metaphor! but it kinda works - Gary's Koolaid is artificially sweetened with fringie tea bags!)

Thanks Jeb!


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 12:45 pm

Reagan won the cold war. That is his huge legacy.

He also brought America back, after the Carter malaise.

He lowered marginal tax rates hugely.

He re-built the U.S. military.

He defeated sociliasm, mostly. Especially, the ideology of leftist thought...supply side economics was his dagger through the heart of the leftists.

What a guy! If he was still alive, and could run again, he would win again, despite what JEB says (JEB's father said the same thing, back in thd day).

Scott Walker is the next Reagan. Walker just put a stake through the heart of the public unions vampire. Expect even more and better from Walker, going forward.


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a resident of Midtown
on Jun 11, 2012 at 12:49 pm

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 11, 2012 at 1:28 pm



The Washington Post reports today that--

NET WORTH OF AMERICAN FAMILY FALLS 40% IN 3 YEARS

Web Link


We clearly need strong leadership-like Scott Walker demonstrates-- to turn this disaster around.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 11, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Sharon--re your link--you will note that it talks about the great recession and we know who was behind that


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Posted by Wally Smith
a resident of Professorville
on Jun 11, 2012 at 5:29 pm

"He lowered marginal tax rates hugely." the top marginal tax rates, which benefited the wealthy and is key for building the great economic divide these days, the largest since the robber baron era.

"He re-built the U.S. military." For what war? He bankrupted America by tripling the national debt. What kind of conservative would be celebrated for doing that?

Oh, right, Dubya doubled the national debt - bet you love him too.

I agree with the other posters: 11 tax hikes, including doubling payroll taxes that disproportionately HIT THE MIDDLE CLASS would make Reagan a footnote, just a 6th place finish in an Iowa primary if he made past the straw poll (he wouldn't) and guaranteed instant defeat in NH.

Sorta of a Tim Pawlenty type of roadkill.

There is NO WAY Reagan could be elected in today's GOP.

Mr Gary - why do you never address these facts? I've not seen a comment from you that addresses how Reagan could get any consideration from the tea party with his ACTUAL record.

Please advise, else one must agree with the poster above who says Gary's "Koolaid is artificially sweetened with fringie tea bags"


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 11, 2012 at 7:51 pm

>"He lowered marginal tax rates hugely." the top marginal tax rates, which benefited the wealthy

Once again, a lefty wants me to explain the obvious: Supply side economics supplied me with an opportunity to work my ass off. I did quite well, then I entered the higher levels of American economic freedom. I could then keep what I earned.

>"He re-built the U.S. military." For what war?

The cold war. Huge victory for individual freedom.

Lefties are stuck in a historical defeat. Reagan called it the "dustbin of history".


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Posted by Wally Smith
a resident of Professorville
on Jun 11, 2012 at 9:23 pm

Supply side and the Laffer Curve and all that crap has been widely discredited - it was a natural rebound in the cycle of things and greatly aided by MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING when Reagan tripled the national debt from 1 to 3 trillion dollars. Throwing 2 trillion in debt (in 1980's dollars) adds a lot to GDP.

Locally, we all did well and many of us had monster years down in the Valley during the 80's and 90's, specifically because it was the boom years for technology, not because of supply side fantasy economics, or as George Bush called it "voodoo economics".

Again, I see you ignored the central point of your own topic: "Mr Gary - why do you never address these facts? I've not seen a comment from you that addresses how Reagan could get any consideration from the tea party with his ACTUAL record. "

Triples the debt, amnesties illegals, breaks laws, trades weapons to Iran, raises taxes 11 times - how is that electable?

Bush got stuck with the bill and the recession that followed it.


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