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on Apr 9, 2012
Anyone else think this is an awful location for a day care center? It is really difficult to reach without driving, so it creates hundreds of additional car trips around town. Lots of cars is exactly what you do not want around children.
The bicycle bridge over Hwy 101 near Oregon Expressway has a series of bicycle traps that prevent bicycles with child trailers from using it.
Is this day care intended for Palo Alto residents or for out-of-town residents who work near Palo Alto?
This sounds like an after-school day care center. It is an odd location for a daycare though.
My son is in this afterchool. Most, if not all, kids do live in Palo Alto while their parents work out of town. Because this is an aftershool facility, they pick up kids from Palo Verde, Ohlone, Hoover, and other elementary schools.
I think the new facility is better in terms of everything compared to its current location at 2585 East Bayshore Road. Most kids there have two working parents (that's why they go to afterschool, not home)so traffic is not much different for parents to pick up their kids after work.
I think you mean the current location is on W Bayshore.
I agree. It is indeed an odd location. Leads me to believe this facility has more regional aspirations, say East Palo Alto residents or commuters working along that corridor.
Chirs, you are right. The current location is on W Bayshore. 2585 East Bayshore Road is the new location.
The new location is much better than the W. Bayshore one. The W. Bayshore facility is very close to 101 and very crowded. The owner said if they can move to the new facility, they would have enough space to have a kitchen and some art class. They also consider a daycare for preschool kids and I can't wait to send my yonger one there so I can pick both of boys from the same location after work.
Traffic is not a concern for an afterschool since pick up time is spread out, come and go and after work. But it will benefit more for the working parents, for the community since Palo Alto is short of afterschool facilities.
Recently , on W bayshore side, there are addition of Pinewood recreational facility, a new Jewish girl school and a new condo development with many units, all create additional traffic on W bayshore.
The owner of the building does not allow Mustard Seed to use it's parking lots. It's a bit scary to pick up kids by the curb of a fast moving traffic.
I would think it makes more sense if the school move to E bayshore to relieve such traffic stress on W bayshore. And for the sake of children, a parking lot/ driveway for pickup is much safer than the current location.
Does the city subsidize this day care facility?
Since this is an afterschool facility a good question needs to be asked about school buses parking on Bayshore.
The Girls Middle School on Bayshore has school buses parked on Bayshore which is a problem for cars, bikes and pedestrians. The daycare center on Bayshore near Greer Park causes parent cars to park.
Both of these schools may or may not create traffic problems, but they do cause problems to traffic with vehicles parking which make the street dangerous for other users.
I think increased traffic volume is less of a problem than the possible restrictions to traffic flow which could be caused by parking on what is a narrow street.
West Bayshore has become scary due to all the child-related traffic. I know it's convenient given all of its connecting streets. The East Bayshore option does sound safer - I hope it works out well.
Hooray for Commissioner Keller who supports childcare in Palo Alto!
As for judging the traffic implications, I would trust the city's traffic consultant. This professional found that there would be no major impact on traffic.
Mustard Seed Learning Center (MSLC) uses vans to carpool the kids from school campuses (which are all located within the Palo Alto Unified School District) to the MSLC campus. I believe they have fewer than a handful of vans.
Parents pick up their kids after commuting back to Palo Alto from work. Most likely, many employees of the neighboring buildings will have left for the day before parents arrive in the area - and there will also be those neighbors who work well after the last child has been picked up. The flow of cars will be spread out over the evening hours. Given the fact that the MSLC students are *always* accompanied to the parents' car, the level of danger must be even lower than that of dismissal time at the local schools.
Does the slightest possibility of traffic congestion on a driveway outweigh the solid benefit of an entire community?
The story makes no reference to any public subsidies that might be involved here. To the reporter, any idea?
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