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Deal reached to save Mountain View's Milk Pail

Original post made on Jul 2, 2014

Milk Pail Market owner Steve Rasmussen and developer Merlone Geier announced Tuesday night that they had reached a last-minute deal to save the Milk Pail, before City Council members ultimately decided to delay the second phase of Merlone Geier's Village at San Antonio Center development in order to replace half the office space in the project with housing.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 12:18 PM

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm

Good news indeed. I do hate what they are doing to the San Antonio Center, not a useful destination apart from Safeway in the first phase and I hope the new phase will be remain useful. Shared parking makes so much sense, who wants to have to park several times on a shopping trip? Plus, someone shopping at Milk Pail is likely to be there a lot less time than someone having dinner or going to a movie.


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Posted by Long-time resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2014 at 1:20 pm

"Even if you build more and it's not affordable, at least it would take some pressure off (older housing stock)."

What a laugh.

Look up "non sequitur"


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Posted by If wishes were horses...
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2014 at 1:28 pm

I wish they would cancel phase II in the altogether....or at least downsize it drastically. The intersections around San Antonio shopping center are miserable as is and it just isn't worth more misery. While a theater might me nice, there are already enough restaurants and retail shops; it would be a bad idea to lose BevMo.

As the current plan stands, it creates too much noise, pollution, traffic jams, etc. Other than to make another developer even more outrageously wealthy, why do this? It really benefits no one but the developer.


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Posted by Neilson Buchanan
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 2, 2014 at 2:48 pm

Steve, it would be helpful if you could dissect the big issues into more specific sub-issues. Allow me to illustrate with "Walkable neighborhoods with good retail options". One sub-issue is the nature and density of housing units. A second sub-issue is the variety of retail spaces to serve those residents. You could blog ideas, options, strengths, weaknesses of planning for those retail options. I think too many of us don't understand or trust the vague Comp Plan will prevent University Avenue, for example, from morphing rapidly into office and retail (primarily restaurants).. office space and retail targeted for workday office workers and hordes of evening/ weekend non-residents. As a resident of Downtown North, I find retail options declining and restaurants increasingly pricey and not as good as nearby cities for everyday family dining. A factual 5 year analysis of retail to office conversion is overdue. And a few scenarios for the future would build public confidence that city government is monitoring the factors that result in walkable, livable neighborhoods.


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Posted by randy albin
a resident of Mountain View
on Jul 2, 2014 at 4:21 pm

it's good if this business can be salvaged. it is from way back when the shopping center was going on long ago. steve rasmussen operated the milk pail way back when. it could have been a drive-through. best wishes and continued success


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Posted by Bad Design
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2014 at 9:41 pm

What about schools...if they build housing? The kids in the area are assigned to Los Altos schools but Mountain View City Council is making the development decisions here...rather irresponsibly, I think. From what I understand, there's not adequate capacity there for more kids. What will Mountain View do to mitigate the school impacts they are creating?

In addition, little has been said here about the abysmal transportation elements of Phase I. I am a very skilled bicyclist, and I find the circulation throughout the site to be very poorly planned. Also, the sight lines at most internal intersections are terrible for bikes and pedestrians. They placed tall landscaping and signs so close to intersections that drivers cannot see pedestrians on the sidewalk or approaching bicyclists.

The main entrance has bicyclists merging (see sharrows) with auto traffic in the main entrance to the site, an area where tall buildings suddenly create a heavily shaded and dark environment. Drivers are blind for a moment when they enter it. I used to go there a couple times a week before Phase I. Now my visits are more like once a month. It's awful.

I hope everyone has been watching John Inks behavior. That he thought it might be appropriate to vote says a lot about his character. He owns the Target site and is very busy protecting the profitability of his own investment rather than representing his constituency. Remember his behavior during the next election.


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