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on Jun 19, 2014
The questions this report doesn't cover is how do the employees working in these buildings get around all the Google facilities?
Does Google provide the Google Bikes at these offices. Are there shuttles so that the employees can get to meetings, gyms, child care centre, cafeteria, sports fields, etc.? Or, are these Google offices supposed to be stand alone facilities that all employees will drive to?
Is Google going to offer some type of Marguerite style shuttles from Mountain View to East Meadow to Stanford Park? Are these shuttles going to be available for other people other than Google employees to use?
Google is trying to do more in Mountain View, but the MTV council seems to be stopping them from innovative ideas to help with transportation. Is the PA council going to assist any better?
> innovative ideas to help with transportation
Perhaps it's time for Google to start using video conferencing so that people in Palo Alto don't have to shuttle down to MV as much as they would have without video conferencing.
Sure, some direct person-to-person interactions are necessary, but email, IM (Instant Messaging) and VC (Video Chat) should be more than enough to reduce the need to physically go back-and-forth.
Google has been pushing the Internet more than just about any other company in the world. Let's see how they use it to reduce traffic between their headquarters and this remote site.
Wayne, whereas I respect your post above, as I mentioned in my post, it is not just the meetings that Google employees will want to get to Mountain View for but the other facilities. The childcare, the gyms, the movie theaters, the sports facilities, etc. The reason so many 20 somethings like working for Google is all the perks they get, and unless they can get to Mountain View for the perks, they will not want to work in the remote sites.
Getting the employees to the campus will require more than just technology advances.
> Getting the employees to the campus will require more
> than just technology advances.
Perhaps. Childcare is something that can be easily provided on any remote site, providing that there is much need. I've never seen any stats on how many Google employees actually us on-site child care, so maybe someone with some knowledge of that particularly benefit might help out.
Other benefits--like their highly-vaunted cafeteria is probably too far away for people to want to shuttle back and forth for on a daily basis. And it's not that hard to cater to a remote site from either the Google kitchens, or local caterers.
My argument is that Google has gone a long way to turn the world upside down--so why can't they do something truely innovative to help reduce the traffic in Palo Alto?
Will be interesting to see if they can somehow figure out how to use their self-driving cars to move people back and forth, when face-2-face interactions are needed.
Many people feel like Google has become an overbearing, giant monopoly monster. We would like to see less of them in the community, not more. They are all about. toning but conspicuous consumption and "Vebelein Goods".
Go away, Google. You have too much conspicuous presence here.
The Circle is getting bigger. It's getting closer to completion. ; ) (for anyone who has read this book you'll know what this means)
I think its excellent that Google are integrating more of their operations into Palo Alto. Although there will be increases in traffic the overall effect will be positive. I believe we should welcome the move and encourage others such as Facebook to do the same.
Just FYI, Google's childcare facilities are not onsite. One is in Palo Alto, two are in Mtn View (not the north Shoreline area), and one is in Sunnyvale. As for gyms and cafeterias, I would imagine Google will include exercise and eating facilities at the new location on Hillview Ave. Lastly, Googlers use Video Chat all the time. And, why are so many against Google; it's a fantastic company and has helped this area become what it is .... and, yeah, that includes some negatives such as traffic congestion ... but at least we are thriving here in Silicon Valley! So, quit complaining!
I work in Palo Alto, not live. I and lots of other folks I know are not at all happy with the additional traffic, it does us more pain then good.
Gethin, just a quick fact; Facebook moved out of Palo Alto in recent years to Menlo Park (old Sun campus), they are not likely to come back anytime soon.
Google has become and will be one of the most powerful companies in the world. You prefer them elsewhere then in our backyard?? You're kidding right?!
Google is not expanding into places that were empty before, they are moving into previously occupied spaces. Why would they bring more traffic than the previous occupants. I think they are likely to bring less. Google is paying for the planning work for a number of bike improvements in Palo Alto because their employees, as well as other residents, will benefit from them. Personally, I would rather see Google in the Stanford Research Park than a bunch of lawyers and financial companies. How many of those employees are going to bike or take the train?
To the traffic worriers: Google is moving into existing office space, not new/expanded space. Connect the dots: they are replacing the previous tenants (and presumably their cars, etc.). Add in that Google buses many of their employees to work, I am failing to buy into the "traffic apocalypse" claim in this instance.
I understand indulging the fantasy of "Haha, I wish I was the only one on the road!" but are people actually suggesting we base policy on something so petty? Like, it should up to public opinion on how many employees Google is allowed to hire? I hope you wouldn't want the same standards applied to your company or employer, its not like you have any more inherent right to use the road than someone else.
I work in Palo Alto where Nest Labs is located on Hansen. Google does wonderful things, we all appreciate how innovative and exceptional some of these products are. However working in the same area provides challenges. They do provide their staff with Google bikes which they ride in circles while on their cell phones, not paying attention to anyone else. Nest Labs also feeds their employees lunch and their employees walk through bushes right in front of cars. They treat the parking lot like a park and just ignore safety, I have had so many colleagues worry they might hit one these Nest Lab employees. So yes, having Google in Palo Alto has it benefits, but it also has its drawbacks. I just wish there employees would pay better attention to their surrounds. And now in order for Nest Labs to use their parking lot efficiently they now have valet parking. Cars parked along an exit still make it difficult getting in and out of the complexes on Hansen. If they plan on doing any work to these buildings in Palo Alto this is going to be a nightmare.
Want to see Google do something truly innovative? Let them bring back the horse!
orses are 100% sustainable transportation. They eat grass and they poop fertilizer. A pair of gentle-giant Clydesdale horses would have no trouble pulling an air conditioned, wifi-enabled and solar-powered carriage. As we all know they used to pull fire trucks, stage coaches and beer wagons.
With wifi and webex, who needs to be in a hurry to get anywhere? Probably 20% of all Silicon Valley employees, on any given day, are working from home anyway. So why not take a leisurely ride into work? Recycling and native grasses are great, but it's time for our 20-something "green" generation to take their beliefs to the next step.
Google could lead the way here. There's a huge horse ranch right off Coyote Hill road, ample space for stabling horses. Caring for and driving the horses would provide employment for young people, and BTW horses can wear special bags that collect their waste without anyone ever seeing it.
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