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Council enthusiastic on 'freshening' Lytton Plaza

Original post made on Jun 17, 2008

Lytton Plaza's proposed $700,000 retrofit won the unanimous support of the Palo Alto City Council Monday night. "Things like downtown plazas, I think, benefit from freshening every 30 or 40 years," Councilman Jack Morton said.

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Posted by Al
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 17, 2008 at 2:21 pm

Hmmm .. another "Friends" group .. wonder who their CPA is?

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Posted by Mike
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 17, 2008 at 2:44 pm

But seriously folks, since it takes a "Friends of" to get anything done in this town anymore, shouldn't we hustle out a Friends of Firefighters or Friends of Cops?

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Posted by Kate
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jun 17, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Back in 2007 we were told by the Friends of Lytton Plaze group that they wanted to place a stage there and replace the benches with table and chairs. This move from benches to chairs is due to the LARGE group of homeless that live there during the day and evening hours. The odd thing is that the police never seem to see them like the rest of the residents of Palo Alto. Noone uses that area because of the number of homeless and loud skateboard toting youth. It's horrible. Why does council think that all will be nice if they just throw enough money at it. The idea that the "Friends" group wants to put a stage there and that the council has been informed that it should be a designated area for "free speech" tells me that this is another Palo Alto "prove that I'm more liberal then you" moment. Leave it alone. Get rid of the individuals that claim benches and seats there on a daily basis. Maybe if it returns to an area where a normal Palo Alto resident could sit without being harassed by the homeless then it would make sense to throw some money at it. Until the police and the good Palo Alto liberal element here stops making excuses for those that overtake public areas as their own, this plaza is not going to become something other then a hangout for the misfits in our town. No money should be spent on this area until the city gets serious about the aggressive panhandlers in this town.

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Posted by I like Lytton Plaza
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:22 pm

I agree that if the city made it uncomfortable for the homeless and the kids the place would be very nice. A little paint to refresh what has been purposely neglected would help, and some new greenery. $50,000 tops.
It does not need $700,000 poured down a developer's rat hole. What an outrageous amount of money being asked for by those multimillionaires. They have no shame. The developers can get things done cheaper but they would rather milk the city by calling themselves "Friends."

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Posted by hg
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:54 pm

agreed that $700K is ridiculous...50K is more like it. I also agree that we need to get rid of the homeless problem there first. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.] They have been given too many free rides. Clean up the plaza add a few new plants and your good to go.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2008 at 11:26 pm

Spending money on downtown is just a waste until the homeless problem is solved.

Huge amounts were spent on City Hall (or whatever name it goes by now) Plaza and it still looks terrible and no one wants to spend time there. The only reason I cross it is because I use the parking lot and I don't frequent downtown unless I have to.

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Posted by I like Lytton Plaza
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 19, 2008 at 11:03 am

A few weeks ago the cost was estimated at $600,000. Now it is $700,000. What happened to add 100,000 all of a sudden.
With Friends like these who needs enemies.

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Posted by IT WAS 600,000
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jun 19, 2008 at 5:05 pm

The $600,000 estimate is correct. Here's the story.
Web Link
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Lytton Plaza redesign proposed
Business district, parks group and city to pay for $600,000 project

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Posted by $100,000 is peanuts
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 20, 2008 at 10:48 am

It is standard procedure by developers to request approval for a project and make changes after they get it. Too many examples to list. It is one reason that as a group they have such a bad reputation. Hey what's a hundred thousand dollars to developers?
It will be interesting to watch Le Levy do a dance to explain the difference.

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Posted by fireman
a resident of another community
on Jun 24, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Mike I do not think I want you as my friend. From a real firefighter.

Do not let that stop you. Maybe just speak for yourself and let firefighters speak for firefighters. We need to help are selfs first.

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Posted by fireman
a resident of another community
on Jun 24, 2008 at 6:40 pm

Mike sorry I was short with you.

Let me explain. The Als Transport Engines are one example.

The person from the other City Department was just trying to help. He thinks he is helping, wants to help . Posted.

Now, His story or what someone told him was what he posted.

It is a load of BS someone gave him. And he was not there. I was on the paramedic side of building it. Is not a Firefighter how is to know.
That is not helping. No not helping anyone but the souless egos. Who need to build a sheild around themselves.

Where he got the story knew the words, knew he needed to twist a excuse. ONE MORE COVER UP. This time a huge multi million dollar one. Please when you need HELP, THE LAST THING MANY EMPLOYEES NEED IS HELP LIKE THE CITY OF PALO ALTO WILL GIVE THEM.

Paying the power bill for the electric chiar is not what I call HELP. But I am funny that way. Sorry again.

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